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Re: Ask HN: Best alternative to Gmail?

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I use Mail-in-a-Box on my own server. It's free, open source, and well maintained. [1]: https://mailinabox.email

I set this up for a client a while back and it was a very painless experience. They've been happily using it for a few years now with no complaints.

(usually I sign people up with GSuite and roll it into the hosting charges but this client was very insistent on it being self hosted)

Re: Ask HN: Best alternative to Gmail?

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I had the exact same problem. Then I found https://www.migadu.com/ "Have as many email addresses on as many domains you need, anytime. No extra costs. All your projects, ideas, employees, family members and IoT devices are welcome. Pets too. Migadu is a radically different, independent email hosting from Switzerland. We do not count your domains, mailboxes, gigabytes or teeth."

I'm just browsing their website and it seems a bit too good to be true... The only drawback I see are daily sending limits (which I'm very happy with).

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Re: Ask HN: Best alternative to Gmail?

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FastMail. It's one of the few third party hosts to support push email on iOS with the native Mail app (it's a custom protocol based on APNS), since Mail doesn't implement IMAP IDLE [1]. They are also the main sponsors behind the JMAP protocol [2] and some open source projects such as the Cyrus IMAP server. [1]: https://fastmail.blog/2016/12/21/what-we-talk-about-when-we-... [2]: https://jmap.io

I second this. Their service was exceptional for 3+ years I've been with FastMail. Got many small businesses I've worked with to migrate. Only thing which annoys me is that their push-enabled iOS app does not support multiple accounts. It has been like that for years, I've heard that a new app was in the making, but nothing came out yet.

You don't need to use their app for push on iOS. They worked with Apple to enable push in the built-in client.

Re: Ask HN: Best alternative to Gmail?

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Fastmail is paid and very costly while Gmail is free, not very good alternative for me.

$3 per month is very costly?

Comparing Office 365, then yes it is very very costly. Such services should earn money at scale. The basic plan should cost around 5$/year.

Re: Ask HN: Best alternative to Gmail?

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For the self-hosted folks there are: https://mailcow.email/ - dockerized, works with multiple domains, sogo for groupware. Compared to mailinabox's single disk, it has 6 docker volumes to keep track of. https://mailu.io/ - dockerized, it has a section on kubernetes deployments, which i find weird, but I guess could make sense for companies https://mailinabox.email/ - no docker, no multiple domains, roundcube, nextclo…

I currently use mailinabox for several domains on one server. Works like a charm for me.

Re: Ask HN: Best alternative to Gmail?

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My problem with FastMail is that if you stop paying for your email address, they recycle it. This means that someone else could potentially buy your old email address (if you migrate away) and use it for nefarious purposes.

You should be using your own domain anyways.

Agreed 100%. After losing multiple emails addresses in the past due to ISP changes, having an email on your own domain is nice. You can then even switch email providers as you wish and your address will follow.

Re: Ask HN: Best alternative to Gmail?

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Posteo may be best for privacy as third party provider: https://posteo.de

Other resources on webmail: https://www.fsf.org/resources/webmail-systems

For your self-hosted email, I recommend Courier MTA with Courier IMAP which is available on Debian GNU/Linux and other VPS/Server solutions: http://courier-mta.org/

It also offers pretty nice, secure webmail SQWebMail system.

Re: Ask HN: Best alternative to Gmail?

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FastMail. It's one of the few third party hosts to support push email on iOS with the native Mail app (it's a custom protocol based on APNS), since Mail doesn't implement IMAP IDLE [1]. They are also the main sponsors behind the JMAP protocol [2] and some open source projects such as the Cyrus IMAP server. [1]: https://fastmail.blog/2016/12/21/what-we-talk-about-when-we-... [2]: https://jmap.io

Does Fastmail provide any kind of "bundling" or "priority inbox" features? Since using Inbox on Android, I can't imagine going back to being notified about every single email. Automatic bundling of messages and the custom rules that you can then set on those bundles is a killer feature. If nobody comes along with a decent alternative before Inbox is shutdown then I don't know what I'll do!

I've been using https://www.sanebox.com which does a pretty good job of the bundling, leaving you with just the important stuff in your inbox. It's not as well integrated as Inbox could be, but I find it very usable, and even better in some ways as the 'bundles' don't end up back in your inbox, they are always in other folders by default.

Re: Ask HN: Best alternative to Gmail?

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Zoho Mail is a strong option. Comes with mobile apps, supports all standard protocols (IMAP/POP/ActiveSync), includes Calendar and many other modules. Zero tracking. Zero ads. Beyond Mail, Zoho offers several apps that can replace most of what Google offers. From Docs to office suite, note-taking to chat and many more. (Disclosure: I am with Zoho)

Zoho is great for two more reasons:

1. Their free offering comes with support for custom domains, which is pretty unique.

2. There's Zoho.com and Zoho.eu. You can open your account on Zoho.eu if you prefer having your email hosted in the EU.

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