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Melatonin: Much More Than You Wanted to Know

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Re: Melatonin: Much More Than You Wanted to Know

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Post by nwah1 »

anonu wrote: post #153

Couple anecdotal points: - Used to have to sleep problems - mainly just my mind racing with all the (stress of) things I had to do. The symptoms were trouble sleeping and/or waking in the middle of the night with instant thoughts of projects, task lists. - Melatonin didn't help me much. Maybe their effect was too subtle on me - maybe I was using the wrong dose as mentioned in the post. - Magnesium Glycinate pills bef…

If you read the article, you'll note that the dosage and quality of the melatonin matters greatly, and simply saying that it didn't work isn't that meaningful if you don't explain at least what the dosage was.

Very low dosages seem to work best, according to the article... dosages lower than what is commonly sold. My anecdotal experience matches this recommendation.

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Post by johnchristopher »

vcjohnson wrote: post #249
dalore wrote: post #230

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Correlation doesn't mean cause. Otherwise you would draw conclusions like divorce rates in Maine affected by margarine consumption. https://tylervigen.com/view_correlation?id=1703 People consuming fruit could be more healthy individuals in general, exercising and avoiding other types of food which might have more effect than consuming fruit. So be careful about drawing conclusions from correlations or epidemiological…

But I didn’t imply causation? I literally gave the same “could be skewed due to healthier lifestyle choices” in my comment...

Hey, you are on HN. The opportunity to shine the `correlation isn't causation` was too strong. /s

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Post by cimmanom »

hendzen wrote: post #7

If you regularly buy Melatonin, I highly recommend Trader Joes Brand chewable Melatonin tablets. In my area they cost $2.99 for a bottle, far below the cost of other brands, and the dosage per tablet is 0.5mg or 500mcg which for me is pretty optimal. EDIT: corrected units.

I was going to mention: the article sort of begs the question of how to get an appropriate dose of melatonin. I’ve found a source of 1mg pills, but even that seems to be a bit too much for me — as if my body takes the dose as a sign I’ve already been asleep for 3 hours and insists I wake 4-5 hours later.

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Post by atomical »

dokem wrote: post #59
atomical wrote: post #16

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Joe Rogan is one of the biggest propagators of pseudoscience. It's not a good sign when a guest appears on his show. Joe usually tries to rope them into talking about his two favorite health topics: cholesterol and testosterone.

Eh, I've listened to hundreds of his episodes. Some are good for a laugh, some have interesting guests and I learn a thing or two, some I can't make it through. Not everything has to be a text book. What exactly is the problem? I find the unedited, uncensored, long form, 1 on 1, conversational style very appealing - Joe is just a chatter box to keep the guest talking.

I presented the problem clearly.

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Post by blurbleblurble »

hedvig wrote: post #139
blurbleblurble wrote: post #118

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Wasn't there a recent study suggesting that the recommended daily value was off by a factor of ~10? I think an important thing to consider is that if your going to take large amounts of vitamin D, you should also be getting enough magnesium to prevent unhealthy calcification. In the winter, I've taken one time doses of ~40,000 IU every few weeks or so, (always in the morning of course). I remember reading that 40,000…

I bought a magnesium spray but in reading up about absorption through the skin the evidence doesnt seem certain. Unless its getting absorbed through the rectum in a bath? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5579607/

That could be... All I know is that it works. Epsom salt baths are incredibly soothing, especially if you're liberal with the epsom salt

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Post by chmars »

akvadrako wrote: post #111
akx wrote: post #97

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Huh. Melatonin is readily available in pharmacies and shops here in Finland.

I don't know why the parent said "Europe", unless they did a survey of all the laws. Drugs are mostly regulated at the country level.

You are right, my use of "Europe" was too broad.

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Post by chmars »

spuz wrote: post #98
chmars wrote: post #91

Melatonin is usually not (freely) sold in Europe while it can be easily bought in the US like vitamin pills or cod liver oil. Is there a recommendable online option with international delivery? (I don't consider the usual 'online pharmacies' recommendable. Even when buying Melatonin in a store in the US, there's still the issue that Melatonin manufacturers and sellers mostly control themselves …)

In the UK, it's not possible to buy over the counter, however it's legal to import from another country where it is legal. I've purchased it several times from https://www.biovea.com/uk/ The products I ordered definitely work so I think I trust them.

Thank you!

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Post by RandomInteger4 »

jonhendry18 wrote: post #251
RandomInteger4 wrote: post #205

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Water isn't a magic lubricant. Pills still get stuck in my epiglottis with water. Usually when I take pills, I do it followed by a piece of bread and then water, but prior to bed I don't want to eat anything after brushing my teeth and the pill dissolves nicely, and like I said, I assume it's safe, because chewables exist (obviously other drugs don't work in a similar manner).

Ah. Have you tried butter, which would be a lubricant? And it would probably be relatively safe after brushing because of the lack of sugars.

Butter is delicious, but sadly it too lacks any fel or fey essence necessary for magicks.
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