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Apple sets up iPhones to relay location for 911 calls

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Re: Apple sets up iPhones to relay location for 911 calls

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Post by e40 »

hawkesnest wrote: post #260
e40 wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just FYI, if you are ever in Oakland and have trouble, DO NOT CALL 911. Call the police directly at 510-777-3333 I recommend that whatever city you are in, you have a shortcut to the police on your home screen (perhaps buried a little, so you don't accidentally butt dial it).

I had an eye-opening experience with this. My android phone's home screen was locked, but somehow I managed to butt-dial emergency services. It wasn't until the police knocked on my door that I looked at my device to see what had happened. They were able to accurately find me at my house in an average suburban neighborhood. While I was pleased at the response, I was also quite embarrassed to have taken these folks aw…

I wonder if after the butt dial, your butt locked the phone (or it auto-locked after a time)?

Re: Apple sets up iPhones to relay location for 911 calls

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Post by vxNsr »

bitL wrote: post #31
vxNsr wrote: post #25

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Right, so that's not even remotely a plausible solution for the OPs senario.

Why not? Those phones can fit into a purse, they are really credit card-sized, don't look like phones at all, and 911 can anyway identify persons by their speech when they run them through any modern voice recognition system if they need to de-anonymize them.

Because the people who would be deterred from calling 911 to stay anonymous aren't the type to buy another phone expressly to call 911 anonymously.

What global db do you envision that has everyone's accurate voice print?

Re: Apple sets up iPhones to relay location for 911 calls

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Post by vxNsr »

Rotten194 wrote: post #42
vxNsr wrote: post #20

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Maybe you just don't want your location ever being sent to a gov agency no matter your predicament.

The point of 911 is to have emergency responders come to your location. If you don't want emergency responders to come to your location, you shouldn't be calling 911, full stop.

I have on occasion called 911 and reported a crime in progress that happened a large distance away from me, coming to my location would have been useless, should I have refrained from calling?

I'm not saying that I don't think there is a use for this feature, but your claims are bordering on the absurd.

Re: Apple sets up iPhones to relay location for 911 calls

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Post by chefandy »

chefandy wrote: post #102
VonGuard wrote: post #63

Oakland needs this help so badly. Call 911 on a cell in Oakland, and you're going to wait on hold for 30 minutes, most of which will be you being transfered to the wrong departments over and over. You start at a call center somewhere in middle America with a person who does not know where Oakland is. They pass you to CA CHP, who don't know Oakland either, because their dispatcher on the line is out of Sacramento. Fin…

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Re: Apple sets up iPhones to relay location for 911 calls

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Post by beenBoutIT »

gregsadetsky wrote: post #167
pxlpshr wrote: post #153

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I built this about 6 years ago with Lloyd's of London as the underwriter for medical evacuation and search & rescue services. We were way to early for smartphone market, but the GEOS response team behind FindMeSpot.com can be contracted by anyone. http://www.geosworldwide.com/ The challenge for any private company is that the solution needs to be completely integrated into both the device and behavioral patterns need…

I absolutely agree that any new solution will need to be transparent / obvious / non-3rd party app based. While getting Apple and Google on board may seem like a tall order (I’m sure it is), both have implemented 112’s AML spec natively. Google is also driving this with their Android ELS efforts. Having emergency responders, and public opinion, on the side of this happening should convince both A and G to look into t…

It does seem like Google has already quietly done this with Android's ELS https://crisisresponse.google/emergencylocationservice/how-i...

Re: Apple sets up iPhones to relay location for 911 calls

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Post by bitL »

vxNsr wrote: post #262
bitL wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not? Those phones can fit into a purse, they are really credit card-sized, don't look like phones at all, and 911 can anyway identify persons by their speech when they run them through any modern voice recognition system if they need to de-anonymize them.

Because the people who would be deterred from calling 911 to stay anonymous aren't the type to buy another phone expressly to call 911 anonymously. What global db do you envision that has everyone's accurate voice print?

We should not be naive. The tech is already there, I don't expect such DBs won't be built as it's already doable. And accuracy can be improved as algorithms get better.

Re: Apple sets up iPhones to relay location for 911 calls

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Post by swellep »

pxlpshr wrote: post #153
gregsadetsky wrote: post #93

This is an extraordinarily important and interesting “space” ripe for innovation. A few weeks ago, I was awarded one of the highest civilian public awards from the Commandant of the US Coast Guard in DC for my volunteer web mapping work during Harvey. That work helped coordinate 700 helicopter sorties and save 1700 lives. I’ve been thinking — and talking with Emergency Responders — about what an up to date 911 would…

I built this about 6 years ago with Lloyd's of London as the underwriter for medical evacuation and search & rescue services. We were way to early for smartphone market, but the GEOS response team behind FindMeSpot.com can be contracted by anyone. http://www.geosworldwide.com/ The challenge for any private company is that the solution needs to be completely integrated into both the device and behavioral patterns need…

Maybe the 3rd party app could be opened when 911 is dialed instead of a phone call being made?

Re: Apple sets up iPhones to relay location for 911 calls

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