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Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

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Post by heedlessly2 »

richardknop wrote: post #254
heedlessly2 wrote: post #252

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i don't think its a bad thing that Snapchat will replace Facebook. People don't want an imitator. The whole point of Facebook is to "record personal history". The whole point of Snapchat is to maintain "privacy". It fills a void that Facebook was never meant to do nor intends. Before someone says "you can still screenshot" on Snapchat. While that is true, the platform strongly discourages it and millions of users do…

I think people want to keep personal history in most cases. Like all normal conversations with friends or family, you would want to keep history of it so you can go look up things in the future. Sending pictures that disappear and are not recorded is a valid use case but it's a very narrow one in my opinion. It might be useful for dating or "flirting" conversations so maybe 10% of human interaction. Therefor I think…

>Snapchat works it will never become mainstream like Facebook

Snapchat is already mainstream, it has 178 million daily active users. Tons of celebrities use it too. It's not some unknown app. Facebook is still more popular by a large margin. However, that doesn't deny Snapchat being labeled "mainstream".

>I think people want to keep personal history in most cases. Like all normal conversations with friends or family, you would want to keep history of it so you can go look up things in the future.

Again, Facebook and Snapchat are two different apps. Snapchat was never meant to become a Facebook copy-cat. They both fulfill two different purposes.

Your comment is similar to watching a horror film and complaining that it wasn't a comedy film and explaining how horror films do poorly compared to comedies. They are not mutually exclusive.

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Post by hobarrera »

richardknop wrote: post #216
hobarrera wrote: post #196

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Actually, you can even have the Messenger app with no Facebook account. Just sign in with your phone number, and it'll pick up acquaintances from your contact book (much like WhatsApp). You can still search for other people, but don't need an FB account.

Signing up with phone number doesn't work for lots of young people I suspect. We don't have phone numbers of friends anymore, for example I have no phone numbers of even my closest friends, we have been communicating via internet since we have been teenagers (started with ICQ, then moved to emails then FB then whatsapp, never really needed to share our phone numbers as we don't ever call anybody nor send SMS). This m…

Huh, that's interesting.

I guess this also varies tremendously by region. WhatsApp completely dominates non-work communication in Argentina; we don't use SMS, nor phone calls, and FB is pretty much is second place.

AFAIK, in the US people actually use SMS a lot, and I'm sure it's a bit different everywhere else.

More on topic though; you can use Messenger without an FB account and still find people by username.

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Post by jessriedel »

shifte wrote: post #154
throwthis153 wrote: post #152

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I think if use Firefox you can get a variant of the StayFocusd extension.

If you don't want the overhead of another extension, a quick win is to add this to your `/etc/hosts`: 127.0.0.1 facebook.com 127.0.0.1 www.facebook.com After a week you'll completely forget you have facebook.

Yes, I mentioned this one in my comment ("editing the host file with ES File Explorer"), but it requires your phone to be rooted.

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Post by jessriedel »

Groxx wrote: post #157
jessriedel wrote: post #149

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Anyone know how to block a particular website like FB on Android without being rooted or signing up for a subscription to some security or parental-control app? A google search just turns up a million people recommending editing the host file with ES File Explorer (which doesn't work unless you're rooted) or using the TrendMicro Mobile Security app (which requires a subscription). Why in the hell is this so hard?

There are some site-blocking hosted-on-the-device VPNs on Android. I haven't found any I'd be comfortable recommending though - gotta find an open source one I can reasonably audit and isn't terrible :|

This is definitely not a request to do a free audit on my behalf, but one of the other commenters recommended this, which I guess is open source:

https://github.com/M66B/NetGuard

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Post by cheeze »

bischofs wrote: post #105
electic wrote: post #56

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The greatest thing I did was delete Facebook off my phone. Here are the benefits I discovered: - I didn't miss anything. Turns out there wasn't any real quality content on there anyway. - My battery lasts 2x longer. - I seem to be happier. No joke. With all the rage articles and click bait headlines gone, I am far more happier. - I am way more informed now. I visit allsides.com and get the news there. I quickly get u…

Ive found on my 16GB phone I can either have the facebook app or every other app that I want but not both at the same time . It takes up an insane amount of space for a mobile app and they for some reason need to update it once a week. Needless to say I use the browser now to check fb.

Nothing wrong with updating an app often IMO. There are dozens of teams working on the app concurrently (didn't they compain about the 65,535 class limit in objc due to their iPhone app?) so no surprise they have a regular release cadence.

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Post by JoshMnem »

a3n wrote: post #200
JoshMnem wrote: post #135

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> yet I waste so much time on it every day I recommend deleting your account. Facebook wants people to think that everything happens on Facebook, but really almost nothing happens on Facebook. It's basically a useless recreational drug that is wasting the lives of many people (and severely damaging human civilization with its reality distortion -- time will tell us the full effects).

It's TV.

Much worse than TV though.

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Post by Foivos »

richardknop wrote: post #216
hobarrera wrote: post #196

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Actually, you can even have the Messenger app with no Facebook account. Just sign in with your phone number, and it'll pick up acquaintances from your contact book (much like WhatsApp). You can still search for other people, but don't need an FB account.

Signing up with phone number doesn't work for lots of young people I suspect. We don't have phone numbers of friends anymore, for example I have no phone numbers of even my closest friends, we have been communicating via internet since we have been teenagers (started with ICQ, then moved to emails then FB then whatsapp, never really needed to share our phone numbers as we don't ever call anybody nor send SMS). This m…

How did you sign up in WhatsApp without a phone number? Also, when you want to exchange contacts in WhatsApp, what you do it to pass the phone number registered in the service.

It seems that you have phone number that is in some way associated with you.

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Post by code_duck »

qmalzp wrote: post #180
code_duck wrote: post #41

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I had to wonder for a second whether I was looking at a post of mine! A year or two ago they made the change to disallow access to messages from m.facebook.com, so I started using mbasic.facebook.com for messages. Recently they blocked the mbasic.facebook.com entirely for iPhones. It's clear that there reason is to force mobile users to install messenger, because messages are still available on m.facebook.com and mba…

Use messenger.com?

They won’t let you use it on phones - you’re prompted to install the app.

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Post by bischofs »

r3bl wrote: post #211
bischofs wrote: post #105

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Ive found on my 16GB phone I can either have the facebook app or every other app that I want but not both at the same time . It takes up an insane amount of space for a mobile app and they for some reason need to update it once a week. Needless to say I use the browser now to check fb.

Out of curiosity, why did you have it installed in the first place instead of just using your browser?

It's a better user experience

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Post by setecgastronomy »

propman wrote: post #32

Facebook has become almost completely useless to me yet I waste so much time on it every day. No one posts anything on it except like 3 guys who post 10 times a day that I barely know yet find their extremist political posts mind numbingly amusing. The news on there is trash, I much prefer the WSJ and if I want sensationalist things I'll go to Reddit and my tastes are more niche now so I have some forums I visit occa…

I agree that facebook is terrible and I think I'm one of the rare individuals who never created a facebook account. But I find it so odd that someone would find facebook as terrible but praise the wsj. WSJ is easily far more toxic than facebook. I've noticed that every thread about social media, the top comments always attack social media and praise traditional media. It's strange how much the sentiment on HN shifted all of a sudden.
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