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How? When?
Tezos wants a bail-out ;) https://coinvedi.com/record-ico-tezos-founders-seek-bail-out...
The "bailout" is "please give us our own money that we raised during our own ico so that we can use it to build the product people gave it to us to build".
Can someone familiar explain why cryptocurrencies aren't a bubble? They both seem to exhibit similar characteristics. Clearly, are shown by the site here, these aren't nearly as liquid as fiat currencies, nor are they really used to purchase anything. So... What is it? EDIT: upon thinking about it, MLM wasn't the term I meant.
There will be many hundreds of coins flooding the market. There is no such equivalent in the real (offline) world. You have gold, silver, platinum, etc. - but that's about it. No one is inventing/digging up new types of metals.
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Today I went to one bank to transfer 60k from one account to an account in a different bank. I paid 7.50$ to get a certified check from Bank A. Went to the Bank B near my house to deposit it there. Unfortunately the branch near my house isn't where my account is. They tried faxing a photocopy of my certified check to the other branch but the line was busy. They're going to continue trying until 3pm today when they cl…
> During that same time I transferred 15k$ from one crypto-wallet to another. It took 10 minutes all told. You conveniently skipped over how much it cost in fees to transfer that much. I'd wager it was significantly more than $7.50.
This thread's audience is obviously a 'developed nations' one. From our perspective yes, Crytpo's use case as currency make absolutely no sense (yet), we tap our Visa card to pay instantly with no fees and no fraud liability, hard to beat. As a store of value however there is a very strong use case in the western world. Of the top my head, it is estimated that 10% of our GDP is in off shore havens, think about that i…
Africa is actually more sophisticated than the US in many ways regarding fintech Anyway, this is a straw man. Who is saying cryptos are useless? People are saying that they are a bubble, that the valuations are irrational.
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Today I went to one bank to transfer 60k from one account to an account in a different bank. I paid 7.50$ to get a certified check from Bank A. Went to the Bank B near my house to deposit it there. Unfortunately the branch near my house isn't where my account is. They tried faxing a photocopy of my certified check to the other branch but the line was busy. They're going to continue trying until 3pm today when they cl…
Let me guess, do you live in USA by a chance? My first hand experience (2017) is that US banking oferring (from a european guy perspective) is a eyes opening experience. * There is no instant bank wires (free ones) between major banks. Or at least the same days ones, working reliably through most of banks. * You get paper checks from your bank :))))) * Small business (sold a car, got a return from landlord) give you…
Banks in the USA do not allow deposits into accounts without account holder permission. They won't let you stop by a branch and deposit into a friend's account (to pay them back) without a formal arrangement, so it's easier just to find your unsophisticated friend and give them cash directly. I'm not sure if this is due to a law, or our culture of security theater.
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There will be a lot of blood on the floor though. The rise of Bitcoin as a speculative asset (and its inevitable crash) will do some damage for sure. I'm bullish on blockchain technologies over the next decade or two, but we're gonna have to clean up for awhile. My hope is that blockchain enthusiasts are taking their profits and using them to invest in building something better. (There's also a lot to be said here ab…
I totally agree. I'm confident a crypto coin crash is coming to eclipse any we've had before. The combination of volume, transactions/second limits, and weak exchange infrastructure; when people want to get out things are going to get ugly.
Worse, the people buying in now aren't true believers. They are "investing" because they think it is easy money. These folks represent a larger percentage of the market cap and are also least likely to have confidence in bitcoin for it's utility. They also stand to lose the most because their buy in point was so much higher. (people who bought in at say $1000, are just losing profits)
A panic sell will happen at some point.
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Africa is actually more sophisticated than the US in many ways regarding fintech Anyway, this is a straw man. Who is saying cryptos are useless? People are saying that they are a bubble, that the valuations are irrational.
Totally Kenya's mobile payment system evolution from SMSing minute refill codes, to an actual legally recognized form of payment is the original Blockchain in my mind :) But that is exactly my point, in that market , there is demand and need for innovation that means crypto (while inflated right now) is here to stay. People who call Bitcoin a 'Ponzi scheme' , type of plant or apply whatever reduction on a very comple…
which aspect of that SMS technology in Kenya embodied a secure distributed ledger? Maybe blockchain doesn't mean what you think it means?
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Totally Kenya's mobile payment system evolution from SMSing minute refill codes, to an actual legally recognized form of payment is the original Blockchain in my mind :) But that is exactly my point, in that market , there is demand and need for innovation that means crypto (while inflated right now) is here to stay. People who call Bitcoin a 'Ponzi scheme' , type of plant or apply whatever reduction on a very comple…
M-Pesa is a centralized service run by Vodafone, quite the opposite of blockchain. It only resembles blockchain in that it involves electronics and it's recent, but by that standard, we'd call credit cards or PayPal "the original Blockchain". And as far as I know, it's denominated in Kenyan shillings, not in its own currency (i.e., hype about M-Pesa does not result in something with Bitcoin's to-the-moon valuation re…
What he said is that others countries that doesn't have a solid electronic transaction system are actively trying new stuff. In that case, M-Pesa won that race but the fact that it was centralized isn't why it won, it won because it was needed.
Now does Bitcoin is needed for another country? No idea, but I would have said the same for M-Pesa.
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christ you must have made ridiculous money with this
Well, ridiculous in the sense that the whole phenomenon is absurd or relatively to what some people earn in a year, sure. But I only made about 2.5x my wager, which wasn't much (less than $10000, more than $1000). Also, as noted, much of a LTC gains could easily be eaten up by ETH losses. BTC is too expensive for my gambling taste.
Complaints of "only" making a 2.5x return.
Or proposed strategies elsewhere in this thread of buying a coin, selling half "when" it doubles, not "if".
This thread's audience is obviously a 'developed nations' one. From our perspective yes, Crytpo's use case as currency make absolutely no sense (yet), we tap our Visa card to pay instantly with no fees and no fraud liability, hard to beat. As a store of value however there is a very strong use case in the western world. Of the top my head, it is estimated that 10% of our GDP is in off shore havens, think about that i…
Of course, there's a reason third world countries want capital controls - a lot of the people seeking to export capital are corrupt non-owning possessors of resources. Just as an example, whatever rank administrators within state oil companies and such who want to take things that actually belong to the nations - because such nations have rather weak administrative classes (not that the US isn't moving closer to "kleptocracy" itself).
So everywhere, bitcoin certainly looks like a device for protecting value - except once all the money that wants to move in has moved, then bitcoin's lack of actual practical use (see $20 fees) will make it not terribly valuable and all that money in it will be at a bit of risk.
Plus, phone-based money systems already are coming/in Africa. They solve the ordinary transaction problem. The problem of "how do you get money out of X currency or resource" isn't a logistics problem, it's a power-struggle. The reason Y person is fighting to get money out of X currency is Z person wants to stop that happening. But overall, remember neither Y nor Z are likely to be less than fully corrupt.