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Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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Probably because helicopter parenting is in vogue (at least in the US). It is seriously messed up that you can have CPS called on you for letting your kid wander freely in the neighborhood

You won’t have CPS called on you for letting your children wander and play in the neighbor. Please don’t spread nonsense. Edited with my response to everyone depositing articles about the Meitivs: Nobody “called CPS on” the Meitivs. Somebody called the polic because they saw the children wandering around a parking garage (not a park like in many of the news stories. See [1].) The police officer then called CPS severa…

https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/07/arreste...

Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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"One of Galinsky's more surprising findings centered around a question she posed to both children and parents: "If you were granted one wish to change the way your mother's/your father's work affects your life, what would that wish be?" Some 56 percent of parents anticipated that their children would want more time with their parents and for their parents to spend less time at work, yet only 10 percent of the childre…

I see this as an indictment of the common business management tactic world-wide to externalize the costs of rising expectations placed upon employees, without compensation, under the "do more with less" rubric. When even the children can see what is plainly in front of them, and express in honest language that their parents are bringing home work responsibilities and concerns, then the economic platform should be re-…

That's wildly speculative.

Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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"One of Galinsky's more surprising findings centered around a question she posed to both children and parents: "If you were granted one wish to change the way your mother's/your father's work affects your life, what would that wish be?" Some 56 percent of parents anticipated that their children would want more time with their parents and for their parents to spend less time at work, yet only 10 percent of the childre…

From the linked blogpost: > My interpretation: Spending time with our kids has become a chore because we're doing so much of it.

What a bizarre speculation, clearly a case of motivated reasoning. It's equally plausible that parents are working too hard/long and so when they see their kids they are cranky and irritable in the few moments they have with their children, and kids naturally want their parents to be better company before they become more frequent/enduring company. If parents had so much excess time hanging out with their kids, as the blogger wildly speculates, they probably wouldn't be so stressed and tired.

Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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post #61
post #2

Probably because helicopter parenting is in vogue (at least in the US). It is seriously messed up that you can have CPS called on you for letting your kid wander freely in the neighborhood

Happened to co-worker. They don't even know which neighbor did it, but it resulted in embarrassment, including calls at work from police, home visits etc.

What age was the child?

Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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post #37

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This seems improbable. Of course it depends a bit on the number of hours required to effectively helicopter parent, but the data for USA mothers indicates something like a 100% increase in time spent since 1965 resulting in two total hours a day, which seems far to little for any kind of omnipresence (similar results for fathers). Of course, these numbers are "on average" so you might argue that there are helicopter…

You don't need to spend time with someone to micromanage them.

Then micromanaging is not related to the OP research about spending time with them.

Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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post #61

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Happened to co-worker. They don't even know which neighbor did it, but it resulted in embarrassment, including calls at work from police, home visits etc.

What age was the child?

Maybe 2nd or 3rd grade. Playing in the front yard with parents watching from the house.

Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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The problem is that 90% of the time the parents are now on their phones. Seriously I find myself on my phone and not interacting with my kids at times and I am super sensitive about phones. I don't allow phones during meals, during family time and not when someone is talking with you. I break my own rules a ton :(

For me the solution was to make my phone super boring. It's basically a dumbphone with WhatsApp (because where I live WhatsApp == texting). It does have a browser but I can't get to it easily (basically i have to start some other app and trick it into starting a browser). No social networks. No games, etc. Maps is the most interactive app on my phone, by far . All that other stuff is for the computer. This works well…

self control also works well.

Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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we do, but I am also sick of every requirement to go outside being a scheduled event. there is no spontaneity to their lives, they only go outside when there is a practice or game for one of their sports. btw their entire middle school is like this. I hope this is not a sad preview of their adult lives...locked in their homes on screens.

I don't have kids, and I'm still pretty young (23), but one of my favorite things to do as a kid was go camping with my family. Have you thought about a "spontaneous" roadtrip and weekend camping trip somewhere with no reception?

Joining scouts will also make a fair amount of camping happen. Not spontaneously.

Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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post #90

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How old are your kids if you don't mind me asking? I'm from Easter-Europe so obviously a much different culture - my child's 3.5 and spends ~4 hours outside every day (except when he's sick or it's really raining outside) and I don't think that's enough to be honest - that's still 20h/day from his childhood spent trapped between 4 walls :(

early teens. they should be outside.

Teenagers don't really play outside.

I was outside all the time before age 13 - after that I started going to the mall and talking on the phone and working on the computer in lieu of outdoor activities.

This was back in the early 90s. No need to panic.

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