Ever since Susan Fowler told her story about what happened to her at Uber, I have only used Lyft, and have encouraged all my friends to do the same. I plan to never use Uber again.
Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People
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#262Earlier quoted context omitted.
>and all anyone ever hears about it what a D-bag their CEO is or how toxic and mysogonist their work environment is or how hard they work to spy on their employees and customers I don't think the average Joe is up to date with this news, or even care about.
Nope, they don't know. My non-tech friends are all using Uber / UberEats with no clue about the company, and the CEO. They just see an easy to use app to get what they want quickly.
If everyone in the country was told "write a check to GM for $50 or go to jail," and conservative media wasn't berating Tesla/Musk, public opinion would be a lot different... Take it all with some healthy skepticism.
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#263Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Just pay the toll especially when the cost of doing the right thing is higher. i mean look at HSBC - laundered trillions of dollars of mega-organized-crime money. for a decade. 400m dollar fine probably isnt even .01% of what they made off that endeavor
> laundered trillions of dollars > 400m dollar fine > isnt even .01% of what they made ...why even use numbers, a concept literally defined to quantify things, if you're just going to use utterly incorrect ones? HSBC did not launder trillions of dollars over a decade, that figure is three orders of magnitude too high. HSBC is being fined $1.9B, not $400M.[1] HSBC also did not earn 19 trillion dollars over the course…
If you give me a million dollars in counterfeit bills, and I launder them for you, I might get paid only $10,000. My laundering efforts might have cost me $9,000. In this case my profits are $1,000 even though my earnings were $10,000 and I laundered $1,000,000.
I'm not saying that HSBC laundered 19 trillion, but the earnings and/or profits of HSBC have absolutely no relation to the potential amount they laundered.
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#264The CSO was able to arrange for $100K to be paid out without any oversight of what that money was for? If it was paid to hackers it's unlikely that finance cut a check. I'm imagining this was paid in bitcoin or similar. How was this able to be approved? I'm guessing someone created a fake invoice? Wouldn't that constitute fraud?
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#265Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nope, they don't know. My non-tech friends are all using Uber / UberEats with no clue about the company, and the CEO. They just see an easy to use app to get what they want quickly.
Speaking of politics, media influence and tech, a fair number of average joes have a terrible opinion of Musk/Tesla/SpaceX; but these same people are unaware, or maybe vaguely aware the US Gov spent >10billion, just in direct financial losses, bailing out GM. If everyone in the country was told "write a check to GM for $50 or go to jail," and conservative media wasn't berating Tesla/Musk, public opinion would be a lo…
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#266Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm surprised Uber doesn't have their engineers set up 2FA for GitHub. Super simple to implement and require organization-wide[1] and would have prevented this. Then again, not storing credentials in GitHub would also have prevented this . . . [1] https://help.github.com/articles/requiring-two-factor-authen...
You couldn't enforce 2FA on GHE for the longest time. GHE version 2.8.0 lists [0] "Enforce two-factor authentication" as a feature. 2.8.0 was released November 2016. According to the article, > Kalanick, Uber’s co-founder and former CEO, learned of the hack in November 2016, a month after it took place, the company said. I don't know if they were using GHE. If they were, at the time it did not come with a good way fo…
They don't use GHE, they use Phabricator.
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#267The Joe Sullivan details are the lurid stuff that propels news story copy, but the important takeaway is that almost nobody, including companies with serious investments in security, can safely get a large-scale dev team deploying onto AWS.
This story keeps getting re-told, and has been for something like 5 years now. It's a problem, and it needs to get fixed, decisively.
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#268"Here’s how the hack went down: Two attackers accessed a private GitHub coding site used by Uber software engineers and then used login credentials they obtained there to access data stored on an Amazon Web Services account that handled computing tasks for the company. From there, the hackers discovered an archive of rider and driver information. Later, they emailed Uber asking for money, according to the company." S…
81% of all breaches now originate from compromised credentials mainly acquired from 3rd party data breaches or data leaks. Most organizations believe that 2FA and SSO are the answer but this proves that 2FA/SSO are not enough.
Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People
#269Earlier quoted context omitted.
>and all anyone ever hears about it what a D-bag their CEO is or how toxic and mysogonist their work environment is or how hard they work to spy on their employees and customers I don't think the average Joe is up to date with this news, or even care about.
Does anybody have a link to a good source on this? I'm behind on this myself.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/03/technology/uber-greyball-...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/innovations/wp/2017/02/2...
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jun/06/uber-fire...
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-02-28/in-video-...
https://www.engadget.com/2017/09/08/uber-federal-investigati...
http://abcnews.go.com/US/uber-allowed-workers-spy-users-empl...
http://www.zdnet.com/article/uber-app-can-silently-record-ip...
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#270Earlier quoted context omitted.
> laundered trillions of dollars > 400m dollar fine > isnt even .01% of what they made ...why even use numbers, a concept literally defined to quantify things, if you're just going to use utterly incorrect ones? HSBC did not launder trillions of dollars over a decade, that figure is three orders of magnitude too high. HSBC is being fined $1.9B, not $400M.[1] HSBC also did not earn 19 trillion dollars over the course…
You are confusing profit, earnings, and the amount of money laundered, each of which is distinct and very different. If you give me a million dollars in counterfeit bills, and I launder them for you, I might get paid only $10,000. My laundering efforts might have cost me $9,000. In this case my profits are $1,000 even though my earnings were $10,000 and I laundered $1,000,000. I'm not saying that HSBC laundered 19 tr…