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Washington Post integrates Talk – Mozilla’s open-source commenting platform

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Re: Washington Post integrates Talk – Mozilla’s open-source commenting platform

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> Talk is small — about 300kb — and lightweight This makes me feel old. Is 300kb really considered small these days?

Not really, 300kb for a pwa seems sane but for just for a comment system? That seems incredible bloated.

Not just 300 kB of downloadable code, it's 300 kB of executable code. That's huge

Re: Washington Post integrates Talk – Mozilla’s open-source commenting platform

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Reddit has had embeddable comment threads for over two years. It was a feature I actually worked on nine years ago, but the standards weren't there at the time to make it work with voting. I know I'm super biased, but I still find Reddit comments the easiest to read and follow (HN is a pretty close second, especially after they added comment collapsing). Is it really just bad marketing it on Reddit's part that keeps…

HN is a pretty close second, especially after they added comment collapsing Isn't comment collapsing in HN the same as downvoting? I find this confusing - or maybe I just don't have enough karma for the actual downvote button.

Are you getting confused between the down arrow to down-vote and the [-] button to collapse? I am assuming there's a down arrow, since I don't have the privilege to down-vote :-)

Re: Washington Post integrates Talk – Mozilla’s open-source commenting platform

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Back in the days I thought that what made the Huffington Post popular, politics aside, was its gamified commenting system which I though was excellent. Since then of course, it degraded UX wise until it was replaced by Facebook comments(horrible UX) and something completely useless today. At the end of the day what makes the difference between a good community and a bad one is tight moderation without censorship and focus.

Re: Washington Post integrates Talk – Mozilla’s open-source commenting platform

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> This blog post feels like the documentation at MDN, tedious and unclear. This feels like an undeserved swipe to me. How many developers prepend their searches with "mdn" when they need info on browser APIs?

I personally hate MDN. I actually prefer W3Schools. I want straight to the point examples.

I'm quite the opposite. I often use MDN when I need detailed explanation of JS or DOM features. I think it's a nice resource. If I need straight examples I go to StackOverflow. W3S isn't on my list any more.

Re: Washington Post integrates Talk – Mozilla’s open-source commenting platform

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Here's a slightly off-topic dream about online comments: In an ideal comment system I believe that articles, comments and moderation events should come from three different, decentralized streams (like Atom) that the end user can subscribe to individually and that are joined at the end users client. That would would provide transparency to the moderation process, ability to comment anywhere, and it would allow modera…

Agreed, this is the correct framework for web comments.

I'd perhaps do most of my commenting in a private comment stream with 2 or 3 friends.

Re: Washington Post integrates Talk – Mozilla’s open-source commenting platform

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To be honest, it is because reddit still feels... frivolous? It doesn't have the toxicity that it did a couple years ago, nor the shallowness of its nothing-but-cat-pictures reputation. But neither is it a good platform for gaining customers or revenue. It is a place to gain traffic, but traffic without revenue is not the goal for most organizations. Now, if reddit traffic converted, I'd look deeper at it - but when…

Far as I can tell, reddit functions best as a PR platform for businesses and corporations to communicate with their customers and fan-base. It's not the sort of place I'd go to for serious conversations about anything.

you have no idea how wrong you are, to put it mildly. there are some absolutely fantastic subreddits with quality discussions and stronger moderation than the internet forum you're currently complaining on. check out r/askscience for one example.

Re: Washington Post integrates Talk – Mozilla’s open-source commenting platform

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be honest, it is because reddit still feels... frivolous? It doesn't have the toxicity that it did a couple years ago, nor the shallowness of its nothing-but-cat-pictures reputation. But neither is it a good platform for gaining customers or revenue. It is a place to gain traffic, but traffic without revenue is not the goal for most organizations. Now, if reddit traffic converted, I'd look deeper at it - but when…

Far as I can tell, reddit functions best as a PR platform for businesses and corporations to communicate with their customers and fan-base. It's not the sort of place I'd go to for serious conversations about anything.

Than you haven't looked far enough, long enough, whatever. Reddit is an incredible source of information and discussion. It took me a long while to "get it", but I'm an addict now. Just for fun, but there are many serious subreddits with good discussions. It can be problematic to find them, as it's huge.

Re: Washington Post integrates Talk – Mozilla’s open-source commenting platform

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post #266

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Far as I can tell, reddit functions best as a PR platform for businesses and corporations to communicate with their customers and fan-base. It's not the sort of place I'd go to for serious conversations about anything.

you have no idea how wrong you are, to put it mildly. there are some absolutely fantastic subreddits with quality discussions and stronger moderation than the internet forum you're currently complaining on. check out r/askscience for one example.

The thing I can't stand (rage) is when you see something interesting, then have to trawl through dick jokes, and dank memes.... to find an actual real topic answer to a redditor's interesting question. It winds me up no end!

This is how I knew I was getting old.

Re: Washington Post integrates Talk – Mozilla’s open-source commenting platform

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post #87

Reddit has had embeddable comment threads for over two years. It was a feature I actually worked on nine years ago, but the standards weren't there at the time to make it work with voting. I know I'm super biased, but I still find Reddit comments the easiest to read and follow (HN is a pretty close second, especially after they added comment collapsing). Is it really just bad marketing it on Reddit's part that keeps…

I have been a Reddit user for more than ten years, and am a software developer, and this is the first time I've heard of embedding Reddit comments.

Re: Washington Post integrates Talk – Mozilla’s open-source commenting platform

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post #131
post #87

Reddit has had embeddable comment threads for over two years. It was a feature I actually worked on nine years ago, but the standards weren't there at the time to make it work with voting. I know I'm super biased, but I still find Reddit comments the easiest to read and follow (HN is a pretty close second, especially after they added comment collapsing). Is it really just bad marketing it on Reddit's part that keeps…

You guys seriously did a good thing with nested and collapsable comments. Reddit's comment structure remains by far the best on the internet. You should definitely be proud of that.

The comment tools in Scoop (the Kuro5hin CMS) were pretty slick. You could select flat, nested, or minimal, and the display would automatically cycle through those as the number of comments grew.

I'm trying to remember if it had the ability to filter comments below a threshold, though I'm thinking it did.

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