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Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android

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Re: Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android

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Firefox Focus has no tabs and no history. Just close the active window and it's gone.

But if I press the home button to exit the app because my boss is walking up to my desk and then go to show him something on my phone.. he could find some unmentionables. Closing the app could have the same action as closing the page.

You have to hit the Erase button.

Re: Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android

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Part of the problem is when Mozilla gives data to Google, there is no way of knowing what Google does with it. If you want to trust Mozilla AND Google AND trust that no gag orders have been issued to the above companies by the NSA, CIA, FBI et al, fine. That's the way 99% of apps work. They all have privacy policies, and people generally trust them. The whole point of explicitly "private" or "anonymous" software is t…

As mentioned elsewhere in this thread, the Google SDK is only used to record whether the app was installed by way of an ad campaign Mozilla is running on Google. All other telemetry data goes directly to Mozilla servers, and contains things like "feature X was used"—not browsing data. Since it's all free software, you can check what events are actually sent here: https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/focus-android/blob/m…

That is not actually what I said. The only component we use for campaign tracking is Adjust which has nothing to do with google services. Adjust has gone through a very tough vetting process.

Re: Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android

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Part of the problem is when Mozilla gives data to Google, there is no way of knowing what Google does with it. If you want to trust Mozilla AND Google AND trust that no gag orders have been issued to the above companies by the NSA, CIA, FBI et al, fine. That's the way 99% of apps work. They all have privacy policies, and people generally trust them. The whole point of explicitly "private" or "anonymous" software is t…

Well, the browsing is private. The way you obtain and use the browser isn't necessarily. It's an important distinction, though it's certainly still enough to be a dealbreaker for some.

You can also download the APK directly from the github repo or fdroid if you don’t want to use the play store.

Re: Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android

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Using Firefox on iOS is kind of frustrating - I can have either tabs or ad blocking, but not both. I want Firefox and Firefox Focus to merge on iOS.

Sign up for the beta at https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/channel/ios/ - Firefox will get the same blocks lists as Focus pretty soon.

Awesome, signed up - Thanks!

Re: Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android

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Yes it collects anonymous analytics by default but you can disable it in the settings. It's not a conspiracy. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/send-anonymous-usage-da...

Reading that link it says nothing about disabling Google analytics, which is what the parent post implies is at play here. It is not clear that is the case, but if it is, the disable button does nothing to help you. Firefox's about:config does not seem to work on FF Focus either.

Focus does not use Google Analytics. I dont understand how people came to that conclusion. Focus does not talk to any Google services at all.

There is no Google Analytics in Focus. Check the source code please to verify this.

Re: Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android

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> news? They launched the android version not too long ago. This is probably just a push to get the word out to people who may not have heard. Fair enough in my opinion. > From my history I guess I don't think it's from your history. It seems like many common websites are preset to autocomplete; stackoverflow.com for example. Because it doesn't save history this seems like a nice way to reduce friction for users. I c…

>> From my history I guess > I don't think it's from your history. It seems like many common websites are preset to autocomplete; stackoverflow.com for example. Because it doesn't save history this seems like a nice way to reduce friction for users. I could be wrong though. In my experience, your statement is correct. Firefox Focus does not store history. It does have a long list of sites that it autocompletes. Whene…

No in-app bookmarks, but you can use "add to home screen" to get a shortcut.

Re: Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android

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Yes it collects anonymous analytics by default but you can disable it in the settings. It's not a conspiracy. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/send-anonymous-usage-da...

You can't advertise as a "private browser" an get away with that PR bullshit. "Anonymous" usage data is anything but when the server receiving it can easily tell who it's coming from. Mozilla is not the user, it breaks the entire idea of privacy.

If you don't trust Mozilla, you shouldn't use their browser at all regardless of what packages it imports.

I think you're being a little silly though.

Re: Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android

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I wish open source projects publish the compiled .apk file not just the source code. If I want to install this on my Fire HD I either have to download the .apk from some dodgy mirror site or install Google Play with some workaround on the Fire HD. Cause Firefox Focus is not available in the Amazon App Store. I mean yeah I can do both in the end, not a big deal, but I just want the .apk nothing else.

https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/focus-android/releases

In case anyone else didn't click through, AaronMT's succinct post is a link to the github release page for the Android version.

It includes apk download links in addition to source code links and Google play store links.

The thing GP was complaining Mozilla weren't doing.

Re: Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android

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I want to see the same internet as everyone else. The more my experience is customized to me, the more disconnected I am from people who aren't like me, and the more our views will diverge over time. Ultimately it leads to bad outcomes; Trump, or possibly eventually civil war. So I am against too much automatic hidden customisation. You might think that's hyperbole. I don't. I'm deadly serious; I think something wors…

Everyone else is getting a customized internet view. Using Google through a private browser ensures you see an internet seen by nobody else.

An internet seen by other private browsers.

Re: Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android

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Focus does not seem to erase your history in a way you may expect. Try this on Android: - Erase your history. - Go to HN, click any link you haven't clicked before. - Wait for it to load. - Erase your history. Make sure you see the notification "Your browsing history has been erased". - Go to HN again, and see the link you've just clicked still highlighted as 'visited'.

It's likely that's because it currently uses the built-in Android WebView (which may store its own pseudo-history). That is a problem, but I believe their plans to replace WebView with Gecko will likely solve this problem. https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/focus-android/issues/13
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