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Re: Essential Phone, available now

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Does it have a floppydrive?

Removing useful features: Progress™!

As an Apple fan... I'm fine with it.

I just kept adapters on the ends of my two pairs of headphones and it wasn't an issue.

Then I got AirPods (any good BT headphones would work) and care even less.

I was a tiny bit worried, but it ended up being a non-issue for me.

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> - And physical keyboards. Something for SSH'ing with. There is no market for this product. Nobody wants it except a tiny fraction of the market who work in IT.

Not really. Manufacturers just stopped making phones with PKB because since Apple wasn't making them, they weren't worth it. It hard to estimate the demand for PKB phones when no one is making them. I'd buy one in heartbeat if one launched with low-mid end specs and less than $400. We've constantly chosen form over functionality. Larger sized phones, fragile build materials(glass over plastic), lesser battery just so…

Decent specs, niche audience, cheap. Pick two.

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I admire the gumption of making a new phone. But controlled obsolescence kills me. The real feature that improves in phones the past few years for me is the software and apps, not the hardware . My wishlist: - Give me a lighter, snappier OS. Not something clunkier and slower and uses more ram, gpu/cpu (aka battery life). - Actually support updates to the things for longer than 2-3 years. - (Not related to this phone)…

I understand physical keyboards aren't really a thing for most folks. What I wish though is that someone would make sliding keyboard cases for either more models (only one I saw was for iphone) or something generic that I could clip onto a existing case.

There are some small pocket sized keyboards but with no way to attach to my phone they are not very useful.

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For battery life I have been pretty impressed with my phone (xiaomi redmi note 3 pro) I only plug it in at night and can easily go 2 days without charging. It also charges extremely fast.

First phone I have owned since my nokia flip phone that I almost never think about battery life.

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Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. edit to clarify: What statements can you (anyone, not just personally you) make about the expression I'm making with any degree of accuracy or confidence?

At the very least, that you're into cigars. If you were to get this phone, I'd hazard that you're interested in supporting this kind of brand and what it stands for, even if only a small aspect of it.

You could hazard that guess, but you could be wrong or at the very best case you're making an assertion that you cannot prove true or false in which case it seems pointless to try to draw further conclusions from it.

edit: Actually you could only assert that I have a cigar. I could have purchased it as a gift for someone else, or am currently being asked to transport it, or maybe I found it on the ground... etc. It certainly does not with any certainty make a 'public expression' about me.

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Any of these should work: https://www.amazon.com/s/?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywo...

Or I could buy a phone that doesn't require an audio adapter, which is easily lost and prevents you from charging the phone and listening to music at the same time. Removing the headphone jack is a rediculous and unnecessary regression. We have plenty of choice among phones, and I won't compromise on something that could have so easily been included -- and is included by almost every competitor.

There are always tradeoffs. Your choice. Yes it's great that we have so many options now.

Re: Essential Phone, available now

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post #261

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Removing useful features: Progress™!

As an Apple fan... I'm fine with it. I just kept adapters on the ends of my two pairs of headphones and it wasn't an issue. Then I got AirPods (any good BT headphones would work) and care even less . I was a tiny bit worried, but it ended up being a non-issue for me.

As also a fan of Apple, the lack of a headphone jack bites me about once a week and reminds me that I'm using an artificially constrained device. I also have BT headphones and they are comically unsuited for use with gaming and music apps.

At least with Apple, you can expect things like this because they're an (often annoyingly) opinionated company. No idea why all the Android companies followed suit, though. Wired headphones aren't going anywhere in the next few decades.

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Ubuntu tried that, and it was a complete flop

I would hazard to say Ubuntu didn't try it, they just looked like they were going to try it, but never did. Releasing only a handful of phones, not making a fully functional 1.0 release isn't trying, it's just testing the waters.

I bought an Ubunutu phone. It had potential but it was too late to the game. It didn't get any developer momentum behind it, so it was lacking in apps, while Android got way better in the year and a half that I owned one.
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