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Launch HN: Lambda School (YC S17) – CS education that's free until you get a job

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Re: Launch HN: Lambda School (YC S17) – CS education that's free until you get a job

#261
Wonder how legal taking a percentage of future earnings forever is?

For example, could I sell you a car and say "the price is 1% of all your future earnings"?

Legally I guess I'd have to say "The car is $30k, but I'm giving you a loan at 999% interest, with repayment demands capped at 1% of your salary (upon production of salary evidence), and the loan to be forgiven in full in the case of death".

Re: Launch HN: Lambda School (YC S17) – CS education that's free until you get a job

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The number is $50k because of folks in smaller/more rural areas. There $50k can be quite a lot.

Yes it can, which is why using a flat pretax minimum is absolutely silly. $50k in Seattle isn't living confortably, but with your cut it's $41.5k. That's less than a bank teller makes. You should have a COL adjusted minimum. Otherwise you'll only be targeting rural areas where most jobs aren't.

Ya, we could, that just gets complicated really fast

Re: Launch HN: Lambda School (YC S17) – CS education that's free until you get a job

#264

I like that this model has become available and wish you luck! Always good to have options for getting this education. One pedantic but perhaps important nit to pick: I would not recommend the language "especially if you come from a lower-class background". Lower income, reduced opportunity, lower education, etc but lower class reads like you're coming from a position of privilege that looks down on potential student…

Good point, thanks!

Re: Launch HN: Lambda School (YC S17) – CS education that's free until you get a job

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You know me? I'am considering taking CS as a part-time education, but I have no intention of becoming a software engineer.

Exactly. There's tons of people like that. Not sure how they'd filter them from the rest. There's a lot of careers where it'd be incredibly useful too. Even just basic data munching with awk/sed puts a person light years ahead of people stuck with Excel copy pasta.

I'll say this if it's just for "fun" for someone I don't think it would work that well. I took the first PT bootcamp (I paid) and that was a HUGE undertaking. They are only going FT in the near future until they can figure the other options time wise, so if that person has a day job that would make it tough and if they didn't have a day job I would imagine "most" people aren't going to complete the whole thing anyways. I'm sure a couple of people will squeak through but I don't see that being a huge issue with the course work being on the more difficult side of things especially for someone coming from a non programming background.

Re: Launch HN: Lambda School (YC S17) – CS education that's free until you get a job

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Germany is an outlier in higher education. In the US, $10k is lucky to get you 1 year of in-state tuition and books (excluding room and board) at an average public state school with a CS program. If you go to college in a state different than what you live in, the rates are even higher.

Or is USA the outlier? I paid $100 a year here in Norway, e.g. nothing.

Eg = for example

Ie = id est = that is

Re: Launch HN: Lambda School (YC S17) – CS education that's free until you get a job

#268
Computer Science and Computer Engineering are two different things and the proposed curriculum cover none of these completely. The term CS education therefor is misleading. I would suggest "Introduction to Computer Engineering".

> "At that point we take 17% of income for two years"

This is insane for too many reasons. What happens when the applicant change jobs, goes abroad, gets fired, quits, creates her own company?

Re: Launch HN: Lambda School (YC S17) – CS education that's free until you get a job

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I see. Thanks for answering that. If you don't mind, I have some follow-up questions then (since I'm considering doing this as a way to get back into a programming career and possibly recommending this to a friend's friend who has been looking for a bootcamp to change careers): * What is the style for the actual lectures? * Are you using any tools aside from screencasting and chat to supplement the lectures? * Your c…

Ok, style for the actual class: We start the day out with a code challenge, then move into a mini lecture (a few students with one instructor) and a mini project you'll work on with a pair programming partner. Then another short lecture and you'll begin working on your main project. If you're ever stuck you jump onto our #help channel on Slack and there's instantly someone available to help out. Chances are they've s…

Thanks for getting back to me. It sounds a bit geared towards people who have enough experience to know what to ask, so I'm not sure if this is something I would recommend to someone coming from a completely different field. Would that be an accurate assessment of the learning style?

Also, I'm still unsure about what tools will be used as part of the lectures. If it's really just screencasting + chat, I can't believe that the material will be conveyed all that well. At least as evidenced by how prepared your instructors seemed in the Archive videos. Sorry if it's a bit harsh, but my expectations are a bit high since I'm coming from a background that includes 5 years of teaching ESL.

Re: Launch HN: Lambda School (YC S17) – CS education that's free until you get a job

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> What these programs need most of all are cheap dormitories that offer room/board. That's also true, but it's much more easily for someone to find a place to crash for six months than to come up with $10k out-of-pocket. Eventually we'll be able to provide a stipend for living expenses and/or dormitory style living as well, but for now it is what it is.

A studio apartment in Oakland is $1,500 a month. There are already a bunch of great free resources to learn to code, including Codecademy, Coursera, Khan Academy, MIT OpenCourseware, and freeCodeCamp. Right now, the people who need to learn to code need room and board, not yet another free coding school.

okay, if you're paying $1500/month, then you can afford places outside of Oakland. I've lived in Daly City for $1000/month before
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