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> after 3 years and a few months That's not long at all.
From my subjective experience, most relationships' future is known no later than year two.
“Rest and vest”: engineers who get paid and barely work
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Re: “Rest and vest”: engineers who get paid and barely work
#262There seems to be conflation in this article between two very different groups. Group A is folks who are acquired and have outsized grants that say vest over N years (N between 2 and 4). It turns out the acquisition was probably a mistake, but the acquiring company made it (and won't own up to it). That's what's described in the Facebook and Microsoft examples. This is the classic "rest and vest" scenario (Note: an a…
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I'm curious if people that do this ever get a "perfect storm" of all clients having unplanned work at the same time. It sounds great in theory but I feel like it would just tangle you up in a web of lies.
> I'm curious if people that do this ever get a "perfect storm" of all clients having unplanned work at the same time. That is why it is a good idea to make the acquaintance of some subcontractors that you can further contract the work out to if a "perfect storm" happens.
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I ain't buying it. I don't know the concrete person, that's a fact. I spent my younger years in much more social jobs compared to programming in cubicles (thank the gods I work remotely for 5+ years now) and out of probably 200+ men I've heard joking about horrible wife and kids, I can assure you no more than 5 were really joking. And I don't mean offhand conversations -- I am talking about people who I've chatted wi…
I've also learned that a big reason why some people are workaholics is because they don't want to go home. Working late at the office gives them a good excuse.
I stay in the office until ~9PM. I go to the nearest coffeeshop to allow me to say "I've been working late, I'm tired, I'm gonna sleep. See you tomorrow". Well, that and I'm addicted to weed because it allows me to just not THINK about how sad I actually am. I'm not married, but I "have no home" basically.
That got way too personal. Contemplating on just not hitting reply. Still gonna do it. I mean, it's great for my professional life. It's not so great for my (mental) health.
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#265Aren't companies like McKinsey more efficient? They have the rule that you either get better and a promotion or you will be fired. So they only keep people that improve every year or they get new people.
No. The partner model is different. Tech companies are keeping talent on the bench. McKinsey and co turn over hardworking younglins.
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#266Aren't companies like McKinsey more efficient? They have the rule that you either get better and a promotion or you will be fired. So they only keep people that improve every year or they get new people.
> They have the rule that you either get better and a promotion or you will be fired. The conventional term for this is "up or out".
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#267This happened to me once. I ended up coding my own personal projects at the "host" company to pass the time. Otherwise, I would have gone nuts.
Re: “Rest and vest”: engineers who get paid and barely work
#268There seems to be conflation in this article between two very different groups. Group A is folks who are acquired and have outsized grants that say vest over N years (N between 2 and 4). It turns out the acquisition was probably a mistake, but the acquiring company made it (and won't own up to it). That's what's described in the Facebook and Microsoft examples. This is the classic "rest and vest" scenario (Note: an a…
> In particular, I found this quote disturbing: "There are a lot 'coasters' who reached a certain level and don't want to work any harder. They just do a 9-5 job, won’t work to get promoted, don’t want to get promoted." Jesus, yes. What kind of sociopath thinks that someone who works normal hours and gets the job done is a problem? I work to live, I don't live to work.
I agree. How is working hours defined in your contract (9-5) nowadays considered coasting? And why couldn't I get promoted by not working overtime?
That sounds unfair. When you sign a contract it doesn't say you need to work overtime and burn yourself out to get promoted.
There has been a worrying trend in our industry I have observed when working normal hours is not considered enough anymore and unless you put in hours of overtime every week you are considered a slacker.
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I've been in those jobs before. (Though never paid as much as your examples.) The only way I stayed sane was to basically take Coursera classes and teach myself things while being paid to do so. It felt enough like work and was obviously an incredible opportunity to be paid to learn. You do start to go insane and there is an effect on your resume/CV as the black hole widens there.
You sound like my colleague Michael. It is you? ;) Essentially we were doing Coursera stuff together.
I worked alone in a lab doing it, none of my co-workers were interested at all.