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NASA admits it doesn’t have the funding to land humans on Mars

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Re: NASA admits it doesn’t have the funding to land humans on Mars

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They should outsource this to India or Israel.

You want to outsource an incredibly ambitious space program to another country? That'll never happen and I don't know if it should either. Parts of it can be outsourced for sure, but that's it. Like Europe taking over parts of some space projects. Russia being paid for deliveries.

You didn't notice the sarcasm?

Re: NASA admits it doesn’t have the funding to land humans on Mars

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They should outsource this to India or Israel.

That is insane. Take a USA tax funded public entity and spend the budget of it's most ambitious project in Israel or India. What are you talking about? And we already send money to Russia for Soyuz to get to ISS via ULA.

I think he was being sarcastic.

Re: NASA admits it doesn’t have the funding to land humans on Mars

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> I wish they would commit to something and actually finish it. I think this is pretty well hopeless at the moment. Major NASA projects have a timeline and cost operating on a 10+ year scale, but their budget changes annually and their priorities change with presidential election. Really the only way I can see things improving is if a president managed to stake out a task that couldn't be taken away from them by the…

It may work if during one administration they planned a program that is coherent and actually funded. All the initiatives over the last decade(s?) didn't make sense and were not even funded. In short, they didn't even try. For some reason the unmanned missions are managed much better. I do a lot of reading about them and all the decisions, trade offs and plans seem to be the result of careful and realistic planning.

> For some reason the unmanned missions are managed much better.

I think it's largely because they don't have so much safety-related red tape. Loosing a robot is not nearly as big of a deal as loosing a human.

Re: NASA admits it doesn’t have the funding to land humans on Mars

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In many science fiction books we assume that if an alien planet ever got a whiff of us they'd quickly board their space ships and come see us. It's somewhat comforting to think the alien planet could also be in a perpetual bureaucratic budget crisis and they've dismantled their space program to make more room for tax cuts. Politics could save us from an alien invasion!

Why is it always an alien invasion and not just alien curiosity or scientific interest? I'm sick of this trope that all alien species must be like the worst demographic of humanity.

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Goal: Land humans on Mars. Stretch Goal: Bring them back!

You jest, but if I ever get the opportunity I will take a one-way trip to Mars without hesitation.

I don't doubt your dedication.. I just try to imagine a week later after the initial "I'm standing on MARS!!!" wears off... ok... so... there's nothing here...

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Let me anthropomorphically assume there will always be a closer target to spend excess planetary resources on.

Yes, but the closer target doesn't look alien . How often do countries go to war with people who are similar to them? Now how often with people who are the other ? (Whatever definition fits)

Well, 1930s Germans were pretty similar to Poles and the Dutch, and even more similar to German Jews. Indians and Pakistanis are also not exactly space aliens to each other, nor are Iraqis and Iranians, Russians and Ukrainians, or Syrians and other Syrians.

I'd say the historical rule for warfare is that the belligerents are so similar that tiny differences seem irreconcilable. Proximity and competition for resources also seem more important that otherness.

Re: NASA admits it doesn’t have the funding to land humans on Mars

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Considering NASA costs next to nothing (about 0.5% of the US govt's total budget), and the studies I've seen referenced show its return on investment to be about $10 for every $1 used (granted, it's a difficult figure to calculate, but even if assuming a huge error margin that's still great ROI), it's no wonder you chose to post that anonymously.

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This is one of the answers to the Fermi paradox.

Only if it would apply to all alien civilizations. The thing about Fermi's paradox is that the Universe is old and the local galaxy is big, so any explanation for the apparent absence of ETI has to cover all ETIs. It just takes one species in galactic history to reach the point of launching a self-replicating interstellar probe to produce a galaxy permanently aswarm with them. Heck, we're not that far away from being…

It's not clear how old life is, though. Are we early to hitting intra-planetary communications or late?
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