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Re: Chrome Won

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Post by aerovistae »

kalleboo wrote: post #134
aerovistae wrote: post #16

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I have secretly held this opinion for years. 4 out of 5 times that I look over someone's shoulder at their phone on the train, they're rapidly scrolling through a feed of photos, memes, and emote-filled status updates, endlessly. It scares me, to be honest. I wonder where this tendency in people will lead in the very long run, particularly when you consider the ideas suggested by companies like Neuralink. It brings B…

What do you expect people to be doing on the train? Contributing to emacs?

Well, personally I read books. I think I learn more and remember more from the books than I or they do from social media feeds, which I think are a lot like putting your mind on hibernate to get from point A to point B in a temporal sense.

I don't ask that everyone read books, god forbid, but it would be nice if people weren't using their phones to put themselves into hibernate nearly all of the time. The phrasing of your question implies that the train is an isolated circumstance, but in my experience I see people out on dates with both people on their phones ignoring each other, and even whole groups of friends out together, all on their phones.

I just wish people would engage more.

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by dorfsmay »

aplummer wrote: post #42

I disagree with the horse / car metaphor. Each platform is different, radio or TV is a better metaphor for still being popular but different. I highly doubt PCs will be relegated to a novelty few dozen in a cities.

And beyond the mobile vs desktop, even on mobile I don't want to install an apps just to read an article, view an image or buy an airplane ticket. The one app I use the most on my phone is a browser.

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by BenjiWiebe »

Larrikin wrote: post #118
andrepd wrote: post #64

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We cannot possibly be talking about the same Google. This is the Google of AMP et al. You think they won't do the exact same thing Microsoft did with IE when they find themselves in a similar dominant/monopolistic position in the market? You're sorely mistaken. We already find many examples of websites and Web apps that work only on chrome or the chrome "web store". This not to mention the surveillance and privacy nu…

I currently have zero hope that Google voice calls will ever be reimplemented to work on Firefox again.

Funny, I got a Google voice call on FF yesterday.

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by aerovistae »

fasquoika wrote: post #222
kalleboo wrote: post #134

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What do you expect people to be doing on the train? Contributing to emacs?

No, he expects them to comment on HN - a proper, respectable website - unlike that Facebook thing the plebs seem so interested in. /s

No, I don't. I will concede that I believe there's vastly more to learn from HN than from a social media feed, and I will "concede" that I believe your time is better spent on something educational than something solitary and mildly amusing that just idly passes the time and is then forgotten. But I do not seek to force that perspective on anyone.

I just wish people didn't ignore the world all the time in favor of carrying their computer (phone) around with them and staring into it all day long.

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by campuscodi »

zacmps wrote: post #87
MBCook wrote: post #61

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The problem is we're moving extremely fast to a chrome only world. If it wasn't for corporate sites and the success of the iPhone chrome would probably be dominating the way IE used to. I definitely run into sites that only work on chrome and not in any other browser. In my opinion chrome isn't doing a good job either. It's a massive energy hog and waste more CPU than it needs to. Unlike IE and FireFox and Safari it…

Chrome is improving on the resource usage front. It's far from perfect but it's getting better. As for privacy you could use the open source chromium, there's a fork somewhere which has all the Google removed.

"getting better" ?!?!

Chrome using less resources than Firefox and IE was their sales pitch.

Now they've become what they made fun of, while Firefox is smooth as a baby's butt.

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by fwn »

candiodari wrote: post #170
gkoberger wrote: post #51

I agree with this blog post. But I don't think Mozilla lost. I worked for Mozilla for a few years, after seeing John Lily (CEO at the time) speak. It was right after Chrome started getting popular, and a smug person in the crowd asked him about how he felt about Chrome. John's response was awesome. "This is the web that we wanted. We exist not because we want everyone to use Firefox, but because we wanted people to h…

Firefox is the only android browser with ad-blocking plugins enabled. That makes it the only usable browser on mobile. Sucks that they don't have an IOS version, but Apple is the problem there, not Mozilla.

Firefox mobile is the only browser with actual ad blocking.

Adblocking is more than pure resource blocking (which afaik Brave, Samsung, iOS et. al.) currently implement. In fact, the smaller amount of ads I would see would be blocked this way.

I have Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, reddit and in the past Tumblr ad free due to element hiding capabilities that are non-present in any other browser I know except Firefox mobile with ublock origin.

Edit: I replied to the wrong comment. I guess it's early.

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by galfarragem »

As an early adopter, I felt that Chrome had won since the beggining and they had only 1% market share. The speed difference was evident and it would be a matter of time until the market acknowledge it.

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by 0xcoffee »

jhasse wrote: post #176
ehsankia wrote: post #93

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The only sites I've seen that only work on Chrome are generally due to the developers being lazy and only targeting the top platform. It's similar to many games only being available on iOS a few years ago, or many programs only being available on Windows. Now with the web, it's much easier to make something work across all platforms, except at the bleeding edge, which is generally where you'll find those sites. Almos…

WhatsApp Web was Chrome-only for a while. That was quite a big one for many people I know.

Google Inbox didn't work on Edge for the longest time. Claim was because edge didn't support some feature they needed, but when the agent was spoofed it worked fine.

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by _ph_ »

vatotemking wrote: post #165
cies wrote: post #63

So Mozilla lost Firefox OS. And their browser share is smaller then Chrome, and then it was, but still top tier and winning from M$. I'm much less pessimistic. Besides a cross platform and extensible browser we see also the following coming out of Mozilla: * Rust, a modern low-level programming language with cutting edge "safety" build in at zero runt time cost, luring many system programmers. * Servo, tomorrow brows…

I know that HN loves Rust and at the risk of being burned at the stakes, i'd say Rust is overrated. Lets get real, it doesn't have that many users, its not even on top of TIOBE. If you are going to start a career in Rust, good luck finding any jobs. I saw maybe one or 2 in the past, and it requires knowledge of C/C++ anyways. You might say, "its new language give it a break" but I bet Kotlin will overtake it by the e…

The killer argument for Rust, especially when writing a web browser, is security. I don't care about the general market share of Rust - personally I prefer Go for the things I usually do, but I am very excited for a web browser written in Rust.

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by themihai »

MBCook wrote: post #190
zacmps wrote: post #87

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Chrome is improving on the resource usage front. It's far from perfect but it's getting better. As for privacy you could use the open source chromium, there's a fork somewhere which has all the Google removed.

I find it shameful they ever let it become such an incredible energy hog in the first place. It's been well known for years among mini Mac people that you can get drastically better battery life by using Safari. I mean it wasn't like it was a 10 or 15% problem, it's orders of magnitude. It's nice there working on it, but why didn't they ever care before?

Safari sucks under heavy usage
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