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Re: Amazon Echo Look

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Post by petra »

mdpopescu wrote: post #235
petra wrote: post #87

There's a lot of negativity here. And maybe all of you are right. But it would be interesting to think of the most positive , imaginary scenario: 1. Amazon builds the service such that brands loose their power. All the negative psych/social phenomena of brand culture are gone, and with it, btw , all the ads. 2. High security + physical on and off switch make for an improved privacy situation , especially if you consi…

Upvoted because - even though I don't agree with you here - I managed to find someone more optimistic than I am.

It's not necessarily what i believe in,and the replies we're very good, but excessive optimism is one way to see what a product could be .

Re: Amazon Echo Look

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Post by always_good »

I cringe at the thought of the "modern household" with Dash buttons scattered around the house, Alexas/Echoes in a few rooms, a "Look Assistant" on every dresser, and a slew of other IoT gimmicks fastened on walls and countertops, around every ankle and wrist.

It's straight up tech addiction.

None of it is even impressive. The technology isn't there. And when the technology does get there, I'd rather have it all available from a single device I carry in my pocket, not across a bunch of gadgets that nickel and dime away my attention.

Re: Amazon Echo Look

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Post by mavdi »

k-mcgrady wrote: post #33

Great. So my friend's homes, which have already been equipped with microphones, will now be equipped with cameras.

to be fair, all homes are equipped with those already. Everyone's got phones and laptops.

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Post by ashark »

k-mcgrady wrote: post #113
notheguyouthink wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, i love all these tools, i just don't want them to have any form of internet access. It's why i'm building my home cloud and automation system, but only doing so if the devices don't leave my firewall. I enjoy the tech, i enjoy the complication (to a degree) , it's fun gadget stuff, it's nifty. However i do not trust them to keep my information safe, even if i trusted them to not misuse it themselves (which i…

>> I mean, i love all these tools, i just don't want them to have any form of internet access. I've come to the realisation that the only way I will have a 'home of the future' is if I build it myself and keep it offline. I love lots of the IOT products and when they eventually come down in price they would be no brainers. But my privacy isn't worth the benefit they provide.

Outlaw the kind of data collection and abuse that keeps these services alive and plenty of reasonably-priced paid encrypted-cloud and/or locally-hosted options for all kinds of these free spying-enabled services would pop up quickly. The spy-vertising economy, which lives mostly on people not realizing just how bad it is and coordination problems in trying to counter it, makes it impractical to compete using other business models.

Re: Amazon Echo Look

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Post by [deleted] »

Blahah wrote: post #11

I'm not normally one to be creeped out by these kind of things. But this is a device that's designed to take photos and videos of you while you get dressed, and will be both connected to the internet and constantly communicating those images over the network. This feels like a device literature professors would use to teach dystopian fiction writing. edit: case in point - matthewmcg's comment https://news.ycombinator…

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Re: Amazon Echo Look

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Post by ashark »

miguelrochefort wrote: post #231
uptown wrote: post #88

Amazon Says: "We're going to blur the backgrounds so your outfits pop" Amazon Does: "We're going to identify everything in our field of view, and filter this into the profile we've built about your possessions and interests to enhance our recommendations engine.

Why is it not a good thing?

Giving ammo to companies spending billions of dollars to subject you to non-stop psychological warfare aimed at affecting your spending habits (and any other emotions/behaviors it needs to bulldoze over to get to that goal) is just fine, then?

Re: Amazon Echo Look

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Post by drochetti »

What I see here is a bunch of smart tech-savvy people that never took a #lookoftheday pic and posted on Instagram and will never gonna buy the product anyway talking about privacy. How do you know you are completely safe with your phone, with your laptop? Fact is that there are millions of people posting "look of the day" on Instagram, Snapchat every day. Taking selfies in front of the mirror in their bedroom and they just don't care. I bet they care about a product that would make that easier and afaic Echo Look is promising to deliver that. So I'm curious to see how the actual target will respond to the product.

Re: Amazon Echo Look

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Post by drochetti »

What I see here is a bunch of smart tech-savvy people that never took a #lookoftheday pic and posted on Instagram and will never gonna buy the product anyway talking about privacy. How do you know you are completely safe with your phone, with your laptop? Fact is that there are millions of people posting "look of the day" on Instagram, Snapchat every day. Taking selfies in front of the mirror in their bedrooms and they just don't care. I bet they care about a product that would make that easier and afaic Echo Look is promising to deliver that. So I'm curious to see how the actual target will respond to the product.

Re: Amazon Echo Look

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Post by ashark »

taternuts wrote: post #6
xd1936 wrote: post #3

They've created a home internet-enabled camera, and decided to market it as... an AI fashion critic?

On first glance I'm not sure if it's stupid or really smart. I guess it depends on how well it works among other things.

It's absolutely brilliant if your goal is any of several things that don't actually involve delivering a valuable service to the people buying the device (if you must incidentally, that's fine).

And if you have never so much as encountered the word "ethics".

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