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Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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I have to say this is the first time in years when there's a feeling that MS has outpaced Apple. The product looks amazing.

This seems to compete with Wacom Cintiq more than any Apple product I'm aware of.

And it's based off NTrig tech, too. Competition is good ;)

Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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Surface Book is brilliant. Solid as a rock, keyboard better than a Mac. Battery life in tablet mode sucks, but as a laptop it's excellent.

The battery life in tablet mode is only bad when you leave it detached (at least for me).

Yep I'm talking about leaving it detached - chilling out on the couch using the tablet, without the weight of the bottom part. I'd hoped the Surface Book would replace my iPad but it just replaced my Macbook.

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They are winning the netbook market instead. I was looking around for netbooks on the 300 € price range, on the shops around me they are all tablets with detachable keyboards running Windows 10. Besides the Apple section with the iPad Pro, there were almost no hybrid notebooks with Android on sale besides a few Samsung models, all the other ones have been wiped out by such Windows 10 devices.

Out of curiosity, what's the use case for cheap win10 netbooks nowadays? When I think of something that has a web browser and a keyboard, the low end of the market seems to be the current crop of Chromebooks, and schools seem to agree - they've been phenomenally popular in education. Typical Win10 netbooks don't have a lot of CPU+GPU grunt, so it doesn't seem to me (maybe you'll correct me) like they'd be very good f…

My wife works at a small bridal shop. They are currently using HP stream 10 netbooks* to take orders while setting at a table with the bride/groom and family. The orders are stored on a desktop PC's hard drive where they are aggregated and sent to the vendors. I think that there are a lot of edge cases where you don't need a lot of processing power that netbooks excel at.

* I don't think they call the netbooks anymore, but effectively that is what I consider the HP stream devices. 32GB of non-upgradable solid state storage is all they have, and near half that is the OS install.

Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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They are winning the netbook market instead. I was looking around for netbooks on the 300 € price range, on the shops around me they are all tablets with detachable keyboards running Windows 10. Besides the Apple section with the iPad Pro, there were almost no hybrid notebooks with Android on sale besides a few Samsung models, all the other ones have been wiped out by such Windows 10 devices.

Out of curiosity, what's the use case for cheap win10 netbooks nowadays? When I think of something that has a web browser and a keyboard, the low end of the market seems to be the current crop of Chromebooks, and schools seem to agree - they've been phenomenally popular in education. Typical Win10 netbooks don't have a lot of CPU+GPU grunt, so it doesn't seem to me (maybe you'll correct me) like they'd be very good f…

Windows 10 is a superset of ChromeOS and that makes it a great conservative choice for casual users.

They might need iTunes/Office/tax software/... in the future and Windows will have them covered, without buying another machine in the next 5-10 years. It's like a Swiss army knife for computing.

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A shame the OS is just terrible. Windows 10 is so hostile to me as a user, constantly pestering me about updates or missing DLL files. Bleh. I installed Plex in January, today after not booting my machine for about a month, I wanted to watch a video and got some random DLL missing. How a DLL can go missing while the box is turned off is a mystery to me, but there you go. I don't trust my Windows box. I trust my iMac…

The last time I had such an issue with my (fleet of) Windows machines goes back to XP days.

Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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$2,999 and the best GPU option is a last-gen mobile card? The default 965M is a crappy budget card (half the performance of the 980M), and if you want the 980M you have to pick the $4,199 configuration. And hybrid drives!? This thing starts at $2,199 and you can't even get a full SSD? I know 2D designers probably won't mind the GPU, but they could definitely benefit from a true SSD. Hell, the recently announced Razer…

This! Why design this amazing display and put such an awful GPU inside? The GTX1000 series performs way better (especially GPGPU professional apps), is more power efficient and has only a minor price difference. At this price it is a deal breaker for me. And I'm like exactly their target audience for this.

I suspect this computer took a while to develop and the 1080 wasn't available at that time.

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tab keys is good, what I meant is if I close unsaved file in textWrangler, it shows `Do you want to save` dialog. I press tab to focus 'Don't Save' button, press enter, but instead of closing file without saving I get 'Save As' dialog since enter key ignores the current focus and always triggers the default action

Sorry, ic now, that's a pretty shitty bug.

It's not a bug, just an odd convention, like using Enter to rename files in Finder.

Space = focused button, Enter = default button. When a dialog is shown, the focus is never on the default button, so there are always two choices that you can make (Space/Enter) without using the mouse or the tab key at all.

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Compared to a 27" Cintiq QHD Touch, the pricing is very competitive.

Yup, people considering this for a standard PC aren't really making an apt comparison. All the creative people I know said Cintiq set the bar, looks like MS is making a square aim at that market.

I have often wondered why only the graphics/video people are called "creatives". :-)

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My thought is that it doesn't matter because MS missed the mobile market. People will default to the products that best integrate with their phones, and that will be iPad Pro or .... whatever the android space has to offer.

I feel like an iPad mini sized device might help break them into that market. Since I really don't make phone calls, when I have my iPad mini with me I don't really use my phone.

Nearly everyone in the world owns a phone. It's the default computing device for the world.

See: http://ben-evans.com/benedictevans/2015/7/8/capitulation http://ben-evans.com/benedictevans/2015/11/7/mobile-ecosyste...

Any additional computer purchase is some kind of conscious choice, and people will default to what they are familiar with. I.e. iOS and Android. This is a big hurdle for microsoft to overcome to convince anyone to buy a computer from them. That's my point, and I think it will be very difficult for them to accomplish at scale.

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The saddest part is maybe how close they where: I so wanted it but waited and waited for a waterproof Nokia and then ended with a Sony Z series and later a Samsung something waterproof flagship. Others waited for instasnapsomething but I almost can't care less I think as long as the platdorm has a couple of good alternatives for notes and calendar + Whatsapp and Telegram. Now I almost feel bad for not supporting them…

This video was probably mostly just faked concepty stuff, but they were showing it before ipad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlpftPSuXe4 If they had managed to get something like that out that would have helped them a lot.

This was very interesting back when the initial concept was shown. Turns out it was killed by MS because it didn't fit in with their Windows/Office strategy:

https://www.cnet.com/news/the-inside-story-of-how-microsoft-...

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