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Re: Yahoo scanned customer emails for US intelligence

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Post by faktorialas »

awqrre wrote: post #160
zmanian wrote: post #87

Secret URL for deleting your Yahoo account. https://edit.yahoo.com/config/delete_user

Do you seriously think that it is better elsewhere? I think that the NSA and the FBI are out of control...

Of course it's better elsewhere. Many companies are not under US authority. Many provide better security features. Many are not known for having terrible security, or the biggest breach of user data ever.

IIRC, Yahoo has always provided more data not even because they shared it, but because they were so lax with security.

Re: Yahoo scanned customer emails for US intelligence

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Post by dragonwriter »

malandrew wrote: post #259
declan wrote: post #233

Earlier quoted context omitted.

NSLs are likely not the case here with Yahoo (and in fact are not the most significant privacy threat, IMHO). An NSL is a demand from the FBI, not a court order. NSLs also have unique First Amendment vulnerabilities that would help a company choosing to publicize receiving one. A FISA court order, which can force you to do much more than NSLs, is the more significant operational threat to Internet companies. These co…

What if you had all your mail scanned or OCRed to remove certain phrases such as "do not disclose" and then the resulting message was delivered to you. The key here being that you will never have any knowledge of such requirements and therefore cannot act with intent to violate such requirements. Basically, can you eliminate mens rea as an element of the crime of contempt? The burden is on the deliverer to make sure…

> What if you had all your mail scanned or OCRed to remove certain phrases such as "do not disclose" and then the resulting message was delivered to you.

Willful blindness is (as one might expect) evidence of willfulness of an act, rather than a way of displaying an absence of willfulness.

Re: Yahoo scanned customer emails for US intelligence

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Post by faktorialas »

feefie wrote: post #255

Is this is the best solution? https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/en/ Getting anyone else I know to do this seems like a long shot. Is there something simpler?

IM. Signal is, IMO, the most secure one that anyone's likely to convince non-nerds to use.

Re: Yahoo scanned customer emails for US intelligence

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Post by tempestn »

rhizome wrote: post #252
serf wrote: post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this the same John Rogers that helped write the story for the newest 'Catwoman' and 'Transformers' movies? I'm not so sure he's in the best position to qualify as a literary critic.

You don't have to be a lit crit to come to a solid conclusion that Rand should not be followed as a life plan. I feel the same way about "The Prince" and "The Art of War," both of which I haven't read because I don't want them poisoning my brain.

You don't trust your ability to critically evaluate the things you read?

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Post by nickpsecurity »

zzzcpan wrote: post #247
nickpsecurity wrote: post #243

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Yeah, that's what I said. It seems so many of these leakers or government examples would almost perfectly illustrate the point of activists if they just didn't do something incredibly illegal, naive, or debatable on top of the solid contributions. Then, we have to wonder why whatever happened to them really happened. Would the connection still be there if they just did the one or two good things? Can't prove it to sk…

> I always encourage those in the future resisting police states to make sure whatever they do is beyond doubt A Good Thing But A Good Thing would easily be destroyed by simply fabricating a case against the enemy, wouldn't it? Like rape, child porn, the usual.

It's possible. So far, they're just using what's already there.

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Post by phaus »

rhizome wrote: post #252
serf wrote: post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this the same John Rogers that helped write the story for the newest 'Catwoman' and 'Transformers' movies? I'm not so sure he's in the best position to qualify as a literary critic.

You don't have to be a lit crit to come to a solid conclusion that Rand should not be followed as a life plan. I feel the same way about "The Prince" and "The Art of War," both of which I haven't read because I don't want them poisoning my brain.

Edit: Apparently I'm not as cultured as I thought. I didn't know Machiavelli had his own version of "The Art of War". Obviously, my previous comment was unqualified.

However, I did read "The Prince" and I think there's a lot most can learn from it. While I find the majority of the book reprehensible, there are many powerful people in our society that seem to think of it as a bible / instruction manual. Given the fact that such ideas still play a significant role in our society; I feel it is worthwhile to learn about them.

Re: Yahoo scanned customer emails for US intelligence

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Post by jsmthrowaway »

rhizome wrote: post #252
serf wrote: post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this the same John Rogers that helped write the story for the newest 'Catwoman' and 'Transformers' movies? I'm not so sure he's in the best position to qualify as a literary critic.

You don't have to be a lit crit to come to a solid conclusion that Rand should not be followed as a life plan. I feel the same way about "The Prince" and "The Art of War," both of which I haven't read because I don't want them poisoning my brain.

That's like saying "I've never eaten lettuce, but I know I don't like it just from looking at it." What a weird, sheltered approach to life; you should broaden your horizons a bit and read, say, Mein Kampf. Developing critical skills is essential for anyone and it's totally reasonable to read something even when you know you will disagree.

Re: Yahoo scanned customer emails for US intelligence

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Post by icantdrive55 »

rhizome wrote: post #252
serf wrote: post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this the same John Rogers that helped write the story for the newest 'Catwoman' and 'Transformers' movies? I'm not so sure he's in the best position to qualify as a literary critic.

You don't have to be a lit crit to come to a solid conclusion that Rand should not be followed as a life plan. I feel the same way about "The Prince" and "The Art of War," both of which I haven't read because I don't want them poisoning my brain.

The Art of a War is a lot of common sense. If your not predisposed to be a sociopath, I don't think it's a bad read.

You don't want to be the guy who has memorized every passage, and rarely leaves his room though.

I wasn't introduced to Ayn Rand's books/philosophy until years after philosophy classes in college. The guys who followed it, or were rabid fans of hers were literally homeless. I can't blame her philosophy on their situation.

One of her most voracious, fervent fans was one of the most naturally gifted artists I have ever been in the presence of. His personality was like sandpaper. He would argue for the sake of arguing.

I will never forget one thing he did. He received over a million dollars in an inheritance. He bought a nice Van. I figured I will never have to picture him homeless.

He decided to invest the money on the stock market himself. He literally lost everything in about a year in a half. He didn't want any advice--nothing, even about diversification. He relied on a computer program to pick stock. I heard he's still around.

If you happen to read this; your art is magical. (He didn't know quite how talented he was as an artist. I don't know why. At some point, I believe, someone he respected, told him his art was not original, and his drawings were just the result of good technique? His drawings/paintings were original, and showed so much original talent.)

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