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Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Post by MBCook »

KirinDave wrote: post #196
MBCook wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's different, but it doesn't mean it's an iPhone killer. MS started making their own hardware and it certainly helped push the market but the Sufarce never turned into the 'iPad killer' that tons of sites decided to declare it. It's a new Android phone, Google was heavily involved (more than the Nexus line). That's it. That's not bad , but it doesn't automatically make something an X killer .

> MS started making their own hardware and it certainly helped push the market but the Sufarce never turned into the 'iPad killer' that tons of sites decided to declare it. The Surface is basically a superior option to the iPad Pro, which all accounts give inferior sales to.

Depends heavily on the task and way you're using it. They both excel at different things.

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Post by guelo »

gergles wrote: post #258
guelo wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Pixel ships with the newest Android operating system, Android 7.1 Nougat. Phones will get software and security updates as soon as they’re available, directly from Google. " https://blog.google/products/pixel/introducing-pixel-our-new... It's the same as Nexus phones, carriers did not interfere with them.

But they still did. The "Verizon" Galaxy Nexus was basically a completely different phone from the other Galaxy Nexus versions and didn't get the same support or updates.

Yea that Verizon Nexus was the least Nexus-y of them all. One of the reasons I swore off Verizon for good. But that was 4 years ago and hasn't been an issue with other Nexii since.

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Post by fleetfox »

Fej wrote: post #95

What is the draw here? I have been running my Nexus 5 into the ground (soldered on a new power button when the original broke) in anticipation of the next Nexus phone. Pixel is no Nexus. Seriously, what does this have that the year-old Nexus 6P and 5X don't, other than incremental hardware improvements? And a massive price hike? Why should I buy this? (Seriously, Google? You want $650 for a phone with a 1080p screen?…

Why do you bring up screen resolution? Both phones have 400+ ppi screens. You want more? Why?

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Post by akshayB »

neals wrote: post #208

I don't like Google because they're gonna use my data against me. I don't like Apple because it's a walled garden and millions other reasons. I don't like Samsung because they bloat Android. I don't like Huawei because I don't trust the Chinese government to not do stuff to it. I don't like LG and HTC because the smartphone market is slipping away from them. Am I just getting old?

Its time for you to buy the Jack Bauer phone

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Post by jasonkostempski »

kogepathic wrote: post #65
adamweld wrote: post #29

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>Now, Google is no Samsung, but they're a long way from Apple or even Microsoft on the UX front. Not sure I agree with this. I've been on android for a while, so I'm sure I'm biased, but stock AOSP Android is pretty much perfect for me. Very minimal and aesthetically beautiful, but still powerful and customizable.

> I've been on android for a while, so I'm sure I'm biased, but stock AOSP Android is pretty much perfect for me. Very minimal and aesthetically beautiful, but still powerful and customizable. You can get AOSP on a lot of phones, you just have to be comfortable flashing a custom ROM. I don't understand why anyone would pay iPhone prices for an Android phone. Even if the hardware quality is similar (which it won't be,…

That Xiaomi Redmi 2 seems to be exactly what I've been looking for. Maybe a little big but I'll take it if it means CM support, replaceable battery and swappable SD card. Any idea if it works on Project Fi? I can't seem to find a definitive answer.

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Post by cableshaft »

hitr wrote: post #145
adamweld wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Now, Google is no Samsung, but they're a long way from Apple or even Microsoft on the UX front. Not sure I agree with this. I've been on android for a while, so I'm sure I'm biased, but stock AOSP Android is pretty much perfect for me. Very minimal and aesthetically beautiful, but still powerful and customizable.

I was a windows phone user for a long time currently switched to android.I checked quite few android devices and I think Windows phone has better feel and usability for apps like messages, dialer,recent call list,app list etc.I have never used a nexus device though.how is stock Android's basic apps like messages, dialer etc? Do we need to install apps to get basic features like nice threaded views, message search,rec…

No message search in hangouts makes me angry to no end. I had message search on my old Windows Phone and got so used to it I don't ever want to go without it again, especially when my girlfriend and I talk about something and then want to refresh my memory later (We discuss ideas we have, preferences, etc. and I used to be able to search for them again, now I can't).

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Post by CaptSpify »

neals wrote: post #208

I don't like Google because they're gonna use my data against me. I don't like Apple because it's a walled garden and millions other reasons. I don't like Samsung because they bloat Android. I don't like Huawei because I don't trust the Chinese government to not do stuff to it. I don't like LG and HTC because the smartphone market is slipping away from them. Am I just getting old?

I'd kill for an actual linux phone. I hear good things about Ubuntu's phone, but I've yet to try it.

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Post by johnward »

camillomiller wrote: post #163
johnward wrote: post #119

The camera doesn't stick out the back of the phone and become the main contact point for all surfaces. This is true innovation :)

I don't get these recurring jabs at Apple. Why bother? It comes out as some sort of inferiority complex.

It's not an apple jab. I really hate when cameras stick out the back of phones. I'm actually complaining about my Galaxy S6 if that matters. Most manufacturers do it though.

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Post by Veratyr »

Fej wrote: post #95

What is the draw here? I have been running my Nexus 5 into the ground (soldered on a new power button when the original broke) in anticipation of the next Nexus phone. Pixel is no Nexus. Seriously, what does this have that the year-old Nexus 6P and 5X don't, other than incremental hardware improvements? And a massive price hike? Why should I buy this? (Seriously, Google? You want $650 for a phone with a 1080p screen?…

> what does this have that the year-old Nexus 6P and 5X don't, other than incremental hardware improvements?

As someone who owns a 5X:

- The Pixel is a premium 5" phone, not a budget one. It has a flagship SoC rather than a mid-tier SoC.

- The camera is better and more responsive (the camera on the N5X is slow and annoying).

- The body isn't plastic, which means there will be less issues with heat and CPU throttling than on the N5X.

- I can finally get a phone with a reasonable amount of storage and no bloat. The 5X only went up to 32GB and had no expansion. Alternatives from Samsung etc. are mostly carrier locked, unrootable and stuffed with OEM overlays.

- There's no camera bump, so it can sit on flat surfaces less awkwardly.

- They actually mentioned this phone during the announcement, unlike the 5X last year. They might actually pay it some attention in the future.

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Post by FussyZeus »

adamweld wrote: post #29
mikestew wrote: post #13

And yet not a single hard detail in the article as to why the headline might be true. For going on ten years we've seen the "iPhone killers" come and go, and this article does nothing to tell me why this time it will be different. Perhaps because it won't be. Of what very few details the article outlines, they just go on about nifty hardware. Have we not learned by now that cool hardware still sucks when hamstrung by…

>Now, Google is no Samsung, but they're a long way from Apple or even Microsoft on the UX front. Not sure I agree with this. I've been on android for a while, so I'm sure I'm biased, but stock AOSP Android is pretty much perfect for me. Very minimal and aesthetically beautiful, but still powerful and customizable.

> Not sure I agree with this. I've been on android for a while, so I'm sure I'm biased, but stock AOSP Android is pretty much perfect for me. Very minimal and aesthetically beautiful, but still powerful and customizable.

This is the go-to line for every Android fan. How many devices out there run stock Android? Is it possible to buy a device with stock Android? How much comp-sci experience are you going to need to make your device run stock Android?

What difference does it make how good the OS is if Google gives it's OEM's free license to ruin it?

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