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Stagnation like Chromecast? Google has market incentive to improve on the browser's capabilities that Microsoft did not.
I think Chromecast would fall under the "lock in" category.
I don't know why it would.
Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)
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Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)
#262Firefox Reader View feature with audio narration is the best! And no other browser has it!
Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)
#263What always strikes me about these pleas is how familiar they sound. They're reminiscent of all the things we "should" -- eat better, exercise more, lower our carbon footprint -- and I suspect they all see just about the same level of long term success. Firefox did well when their only real competitor (MS) was actively trying to make their own browser bad in order to preserve the relevance of the desktop OS and their…
From my own experiences, Firefox is a better product than Chrome in a lot of ways. For my daily needs, Firefox can easily survive 150 tabs, while Chrome nearly chokes my machine in 30. Firefox on Android has a quaint reader mode, which I use to read at night. Firefox on Android supports extensions. It stays the most standard implementation of web standards that I know. I have been using it for over 5 years, and though I am forced to use Chrome occasionally (for Chromecast related work), it remains my primary browser. I will use it as long as I can.
Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)
#264Earlier quoted context omitted.
Firefox is unusually slow on my low-end Windows tablet, while Opera/Chrome is grand. My desktop will power through anything, so Firefox on there. My phone, however... Firefox on Android with uBlock Origin is the best mobile browsing experience I've ever had.
Yep. For people who run Android and don't have superuser privileges for system-wide ad blocking, I typically recommend Firefox and uBlock Origin for a simple way to at least improve web browsing. On mobile it's even more important than desktop I find. On your larger screen and faster machine with a broadband connection, ads are an annoyance. On mobile, they tax the relatively weaker hardware, use up more data, and ca…
I want to use Firefox on mobile... but it sucks at video.
Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)
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Firefox can cope with hundreds of tabs just fine. Way better than Chrome can cope with a similar workload, both in terms of memory usage and UI (Chrome winds up with tabs only a few pixels wide, with no information visible!). Firefox’s reputation is because of its history: when Chrome was new it did perform really well and Firefox did have serious performance issues. Chrome has been marvellous for Firefox. The sad th…
Hundreds? No way. It runs like crap with a few dozen tabs and I always have to restart it so it doesn't start slowing down and behaving badly.
Yes way. Now I'm using Tab Center experiment from Test Pilot, which makes it easier for me to clean up unused tabs, so now I'm keeping it around 100, but earlier it was very common for me to have around 600-700 tabs open.
Once I got to 1200. It started to feel a bit sluggish during the usage and I had to restart it daily. Restarting took about 3-4 minutes, but it was fine for some time after restart. Eventually got tired of it and reseted the whole session.
On the other hand, Chromium becomes almost unusable with around 50 tabs. I cannot imagine having more than 200 tabs open in it, both from UI and CPU/RAM perspective.
Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)
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Firefox is good. It has support for modern standards, is performant, has tracking protection built in and plenty of extensions. Google is winning because it's bundling its browser just like Microsoft used to and is aggressively advertising it on all of its web properties, which might have a reach of close to 100% of the web-using population. Firefox also has a reputation for being slow, gotten probably from people do…
> Google is winning because it's bundling its browser just like Microsoft used to and is aggressively advertising it on all of its web properties, which might have a reach of close to 100% of the web-using population Not because Chrome is a better browser. All these sheep ( like me ) which get hoodwinked into using Chrome by Google's marketing blitzkrieg. Silly us. But wait, > Firefox also has a reputation for being…
Actually, the tab argument is very poor. Chrome does not cope well with more than low tens of tabs open, while Firefox handles it very well (from my experience up to around 1000).
Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)
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Here's what I find interesting about that: I tend to run Linux on a bunch of older hardware for various purposes. One of those devices is a netbook with an Atom N450 CPU, in other words a single core dog of a processor that struggles with the lightest of loads. With it running Slackware (which actually makes the netbook usable as a mobile daily driver) Firefox runs circles around Chromium. Granted, neither browser is…
On my machine there is no hardware acceleration, there is a noticeable lag with rendering and input response in Firefox. Pages load slower, scrolling is not smooth.
I'm curious then, which GPU do you have and if it's AMD or Nvidia, are you using the proprietary driver or the open source driver? I ask because I've had lag and rendering issues under the Nouveau driver that disappeared on the proprietary driver. This is on a modern workstation with a GTX 960 and both Firefox and Chromium were affected.
Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)
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I've never experienced ram issues with chrome. Is it a tangible problem that noticeably hurts experience or do you kind of have to be looking at the RAM stats to perceive that there's a problem? I wonder if I'm missing something or am just not the exceptional case where chromes use of memory matters.
I too switched from chromium to firefox a few years ago when my system ran out of its 8GB RAM regularly. Chromium was using about 7.5GB, it was quite noticable. I then reopened the exact same tabs in firefox, made sure they are all loaded to make a fair comparison and it came out to less than 1.5GB RAM usage. I've been a happy firefox user since then and never looked back.
Same here. Chromium with more than just a few tabs open is almost unbearable on 8GB RAM, while Firefox works well with hundreds.
Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)
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Also using Firefox (Developer Edition) as my primary browser. But my observations are quite different: - On my machine, Firefox uses more RAM than Chrome (Canary) for the same workloads and is slower - Chrome is way faster. As a web application developer I notice that all the time. Chrome renders faster and the JavaScript engine also processes faster. Firefox likes to crash when reloading a page that uses WebSockets.…
Another thing people don't seem to understand is that Chrome uses as much memory as it sanely can for the task provided. There are situations where it will use more, or less than Firefox, but I guarantee you in 99% of those situations, Chrome will be the one performing faster.
Not true in my case. Chromium often makes the system start feeling unresponsive by causing a lot of swapping, while Firefox deals well with way more tabs open and still keeps some RAM free for other apps to use. When Firefox catches some memory leak and also starts to swap, restarting it fixes the issue (but I have to say that it has become very rare nowadays), but when I restart Chromium, I have to quickly clean up unused tabs to prevent them from eating whole RAM again.
On my 8GB RAM machines, Chromium performs faster when there are up to 10 tabs open, but otherwise Firefox easily beats it.
Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)
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It's not FUD since Firefox does have many flaws. While I don't like Google and Chrome, for an average user it is better to use.
Just curious, why is Chrome better for you? I switched back to Firefox after e10s landed, and tbh they are now functionally equivalent (for me, at least). I now choose Firefox because I find myself more aligned with Mozilla's philosophy, and to promote cross-browser consistency.
Is e10s the default now? I thought you had to enable it yourself, and some extensions weren't huge fans.