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Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by eropple »

rimantas wrote: post #27
zxcvcxz wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except it runs iOS and not a full desktop operating system. Why would a "pro" user choose this over a surface pro/MBP/ubuntu certified system?

It is not desktop, so that makes sense. If it suits your workflow, why not? I can see it replacing wacoms for many.

"Many"? Who? It won't work for web design, because it doesn't handle a file system. It's a more expensive option than a Cintiq or a Surface Pro and doesn't work with the existing install base of Adobe CC products (or the tons of third-party software that works with them), and any other art tools that come out will be in the exact same boat.

I think you're projecting, and severely.

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Post by Xcelerate »

aianus wrote: post #183
Xcelerate wrote: post #42

I don't understand the allure of a "pro" iPad. Wouldn't you just want a laptop then? The keyboard is (at least for me) the fastest accurate text input device ever invented. It's the main reason I type everything instead of write it by hand.

I wish this thing existed when I was studying math in school. It's not practical to do math with a keyboard.

Good point. I had forgotten about that. Math is one of the few things I still use a pencil and paper for.

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Post by Someone »

slg wrote: post #24

It is interesting comparing Microsoft and Apple's convertible tablet strategy. Microsoft's devices use the full OS and are basically laptops first and tablets second while Apple is doing the opposite. If this is truly designed to be "Pro" as in enterprise , I think Microsoft's strategy is going to lead to more productive and therefore better enterprise devices. EDIT: And after the price is revealed the scales tip a l…

The risk with Microsoft's approach is that companies will think "our Windows app runs fine on Surface" and invest little on making their application work great on Surface because they form a small part of the market.

The risk with Apple's approach is that companies will think "it's too much work to make a custom UI for such a small market".

I guess time will tell who wins this. Possibly, things will go like they went with Mac OS and Windows: some companies decided to build applications for the Mac, thus forcing others out of the market, and making it easier for them to develop Windows versions. Another possibility is that the way larger market in 2015 vs 1985 and the existence of many existing iOS apps makes more companies decide that developing a custom UI for iPad Pro is worth the effort.

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Post by WorldWideWayne »

criddell wrote: post #216
slg wrote: post #24

It is interesting comparing Microsoft and Apple's convertible tablet strategy. Microsoft's devices use the full OS and are basically laptops first and tablets second while Apple is doing the opposite. If this is truly designed to be "Pro" as in enterprise , I think Microsoft's strategy is going to lead to more productive and therefore better enterprise devices. EDIT: And after the price is revealed the scales tip a l…

None of that really matters though. It's all about the applications. If you need to run Windows software, buy a Windows machine. If the applications you depend on require iOS, buy an iPad. Other non-software features (like battery life and weight) matter as well. Price doesn't really matter though.

Lots of businesses build their own software. Do you think it's easier to deploy private software onto an iPad or a Windows machine?

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Post by spyder »

callesgg wrote: post #96

At that size it is balancing close to the edge where computers live. But my guess is that as long as computers dont have proper touch interfaces tablets will be considered to have a different use senario. It is hard to lift up my computer on the buss and look at a video or browse the web in a somewhat comfortable way.

ASUS Transformer Books: http://www.amazon.com/Transformer-T300CHI-F1-DB-All-Aluminum...

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Post by baq »

JohnTHaller wrote: post #201
zxcvcxz wrote: post #156

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I just want someone to explain the $99 stylus. What's so special about it?

Well, it's twice as expensive as the existing chargeable force sensitive Pencil for iPad made by another company.

and the worst part is that the Pencil will probably lose half of its business.

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Post by JeremyBanks »

ThomPete wrote: post #208

I still believe that in order for apple to get more iPads sold, Apple need to move towards enterprise which IMO means they need to loose the Sandbox requirements which is holding back a lot of innovation. The iPad Pro is a beautiful machine but it's hardly going to change the issues that apple generally have with selling the iPad. One solution could be to give Sandbox control to enterprises instead, so they could kee…

https://developer.apple.com/programs/enterprise/

Enterprise customers can already sign their own apps for internal use.

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Post by seiji »

hashberry wrote: post #207
jff wrote: post #47

Predicted by a 3 year old comic: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COenroJWEAAjLoi.jpg:large

And so it begins... the once innovative company is now playing catch up, losing a little bit of its sex appeal as it copies the bland competition.

Apple always prefers to release late and do it better rather than play race-to-the-bottom games in perfect competition markets.

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Post by derefr »

ant6n wrote: post #181
izzydata wrote: post #157

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$1000 gets you a powerful high end laptop in terms of hardware. You might be sacrificing build quality at that price though, but you can get good specs for that.

...and on the software side, you don't even have sysadmin access

Or, from the opposed perspective, you're paying Apple to do your sysadmin tasks for you.

(Really, you do have sysadmin access, if you care enough. My iPhone has a profile on it put there by my [big, enterprise-y] employer, which gives them the ability to do pretty much whatever they want—including side-loading applications. I'm surprised nobody has used the "corporate-owned device" method to build an App store yet.)

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Post by criddell »

blumkvist wrote: post #228
criddell wrote: post #216

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None of that really matters though. It's all about the applications. If you need to run Windows software, buy a Windows machine. If the applications you depend on require iOS, buy an iPad. Other non-software features (like battery life and weight) matter as well. Price doesn't really matter though.

What professional applications require ios?

I had an insurance adjuster at my house to evaluate hail damage earlier this year and he did everything on an iPad. My doctor uses an iPad for Medscape (? not sure if that's right) and some other mobile point of care app. My mother in law is a real estate agent and her office uses iPads for everything.

There's a ton of them and it's a very hot area right now. It's a great time to be an iOS developer.

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