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A Company Copes With Backlash Against the Raise That Roared

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Re: A Company Copes With Backlash Against the Raise That Roared

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For all the people complaining. Please remember this: 1. It is his company; not yours. 2. He doesn't have to check with you 3. He pays the consequences of any bad decisions; not you. 4. He reaps the benefits; not you. 5. Your (and my) opinion does not matter.

Don't confuse criticism with complaint.

Re: A Company Copes With Backlash Against the Raise That Roared

#252

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>How does someone else earning more money hurt you? It's not that simple. The employees were already working under conditions that job/person a was worth 2x and job/person b was worth 3x. That was established and everyone was content (or reasonably so). All of a sudden, someone declared that job/person a is worth 3x too, with no corresponding change to the output or expectations of either job. Job/Person b, having be…

> If you suggest all of a sudden that I'm not any more valuable than the receptionist hired last month, you should rightly expect that I'd be a little pissed. Then leave. Seriously. If you are so upset then leave. But when interviewing, you might want to come up with a different reason for leaving the job. The interviewer might not be so understanding. Update: wow, a downvote. :-) I welcome the downvotes.

Just up and leave? Y'know, its possible to work these things out without something so extreme.

Re: A Company Copes With Backlash Against the Raise That Roared

#253

It's interesting to see him being accused of being "socialist" or "communist" when his decision seems to flow from his conservative Christian upbringing.

And Saettle is like Manchester in the UK in having a traditional of worker coops

Re: A Company Copes With Backlash Against the Raise That Roared

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> Roger Reynolds, a co-owner of a wealth management company, said his discussion of the pay plan with Mr. Price got heated. “My wife and I got so frustrated with him at a cocktail party, we literally left,” said Mr. Reynolds, who complained that Mr. Price unfairly accused him of measuring his self-worth solely in terms of money and trying to hold somebody else down. Everyone may have equal rights, but not equal talen…

Ironic that a wealth management advisor, who essentially peddles mutual funds and pats clients on the head in exchange for 2% of their wealth is concerned about paying for talent. My grandfather owned a bar years ago. He paid the bartenders a good wage, way more than what he was required to by law. He did it because it kept good people around and reduced pilferage.

So compared to his contemporaries, was your grandfather a better man, a more prudent man, or both?

Re: A Company Copes With Backlash Against the Raise That Roared

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post #143

> Roger Reynolds, a co-owner of a wealth management company, said his discussion of the pay plan with Mr. Price got heated. “My wife and I got so frustrated with him at a cocktail party, we literally left,” said Mr. Reynolds, who complained that Mr. Price unfairly accused him of measuring his self-worth solely in terms of money and trying to hold somebody else down. Everyone may have equal rights, but not equal talen…

Ironic that a wealth management advisor, who essentially peddles mutual funds and pats clients on the head in exchange for 2% of their wealth is concerned about paying for talent. My grandfather owned a bar years ago. He paid the bartenders a good wage, way more than what he was required to by law. He did it because it kept good people around and reduced pilferage.

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Re: A Company Copes With Backlash Against the Raise That Roared

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Right. From the article: Several employees who stayed, while exhilarated by the raises, say they now feel a lot of pressure. “Am I doing my job well enough to deserve this?” said Stephanie Brooks, 23, who joined Gravity as an administrative assistant two months before the wage increase. “I didn’t earn it.” (edit) I understand the gut feeling of unfairness from the people who were already earning more than $70K, but s…

I think they assume correctly. I know all sorts of people who are extremely well paid who spend at least 30% of their time just waltzing around the office and chatting with people. Some people are just entitled &/or clueless.

Seems like you have plenty of time to observe the habits of your fellows.

Re: A Company Copes With Backlash Against the Raise That Roared

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post #230

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If they weren't being paid the same before this stunt, they weren't peers.

How is the mud on your pig farm Napoleon?

yay the downvotes. Its a book reference. I wonder if people that left his company didnt read Animal Farm as well.

Re: A Company Copes With Backlash Against the Raise That Roared

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I think they assume correctly. I know all sorts of people who are extremely well paid who spend at least 30% of their time just waltzing around the office and chatting with people. Some people are just entitled &/or clueless.

Seems like you have plenty of time to observe the habits of your fellows.

I'm not sure what you mean?

Re: A Company Copes With Backlash Against the Raise That Roared

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post #228

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How far (in %) is your salary from the average for the position / industry / city you are in?

Not really relevant since I am working at a startup and have a significant % ownership. I am renegotiating for a much larger % of the ownership. But how much the % is worth at the end of the day remains to be determined.

Fair enough - but then we're talking about completely different things :)

Re: A Company Copes With Backlash Against the Raise That Roared

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> How about observing how well they perform before bringing in your Ayn Rand propaganda. While I agree with the rest of your post, your portrayal of Ms. Rand's work is woefully inaccurate. No where do I recall she wrote of demeaning blacks, suppressing wages and preventing the equal participation of all capable people in a common market. Rand was very clear that racism and discrimination hindered the free market by p…

Hahahahah fuck off "They (Native Americans) didn't have any rights to the land, and there was no reason for anyone to grant them rights which they had not conceived and were not using. What was it that they were fighting for, when they opposed white men on this continent? For their wish to continue a primitive existence, their 'right' to keep part of the earth untouched, unused and not even as property, but just keep…

> Hahahahah fuck off

Please, no comments like this on HN, regardless of how wrong Ayn Rand was.

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