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Re: Popcorn Time in Your Browser

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Post by joeyespo »

Schwolop wrote: post #250

I want an amnesty on piracy, paid for by an increase in my taxes, then used to fund government grants and financial support for content creators. Content should default to free and accessible, with few exceptions. Content creators should be able to earn a living. Those two statements are not mutually exclusive, but the current status quo makes them so.

Essentially, a basic income?

That would also create content creators. That is, allow people who would not normally create content from lack of time or security to begin doing so.

It would also eliminate the waste caused from having a big department to determine who exactly "content creators" are.

Re: Popcorn Time in Your Browser

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Post by bdcravens »

Sir_Substance wrote: post #218
bdcravens wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've never accidentally watched Game of Thrones, or unintentionally been within earshot of it - I had to explicitly choose to include that programming.

Really? Your social life must be non-existant. I'm not exactly a party animal and I've caught clips of it dozens of times and friends houses.

That's probably a fair assessment, but a bit beside the point: if they were watching it on their television that fails the analogy as the cable company wouldn't be shaking me down for it. As a matter of fact, I have an HBO Go subscription via iTunes and I don't watch the show - I mostly got it for Silicon Valley and some movies, and I wanted to support what I think is a move in the right direction.

Re: Popcorn Time in Your Browser

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Post by Schwolop »

joeyespo wrote: post #251
Schwolop wrote: post #250

I want an amnesty on piracy, paid for by an increase in my taxes, then used to fund government grants and financial support for content creators. Content should default to free and accessible, with few exceptions. Content creators should be able to earn a living. Those two statements are not mutually exclusive, but the current status quo makes them so.

Essentially, a basic income? That would also create content creators. That is, allow people who would not normally create content from lack of time or security to begin doing so. It would also eliminate the waste caused from having a big department to determine who exactly "content creators" are.

Yep, that'd do it. :-)

Re: Popcorn Time in Your Browser

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Post by Sir_Substance »

bdcravens wrote: post #252
Sir_Substance wrote: post #218

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? Your social life must be non-existant. I'm not exactly a party animal and I've caught clips of it dozens of times and friends houses.

That's probably a fair assessment, but a bit beside the point: if they were watching it on their television that fails the analogy as the cable company wouldn't be shaking me down for it. As a matter of fact, I have an HBO Go subscription via iTunes and I don't watch the show - I mostly got it for Silicon Valley and some movies, and I wanted to support what I think is a move in the right direction.

>the cable company wouldn't be shaking me down for it.

They would if they could.

Re: Popcorn Time in Your Browser

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Post by LLWM »

Sir_Substance wrote: post #211
LLWM wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you get fired before payday, your employer is still legally obligated to pay you for the days you actually did work during that period.

You don't get paid for the time after though. If I pay for a concert, and I leave 10% of the way in because it's awful, will I get 90% of my money back? No.

I have never seen a venue that would have failed to give a complete refund in that scenario. That's basic customer service.

Re: Popcorn Time in Your Browser

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Post by Lawtonfogle »

Schwolop wrote: post #249
Lawtonfogle wrote: post #237

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You never were under contract. Someone who uploaded it probably was. Thus with them lies the breach of contract and penalties owed.

This sounds a lot like you're suggesting downloading copyrighted works is acceptable, and that only the uploaders have done anything wrong. Regardless how you and I feel about that sentiment, I assure you Hollywood feels and sues differently...

Only the uploaders have broken a contract. Downloading information is never wrong, and they are under no contract. Hollywood sues differently, but they are still wrong.

Re: Popcorn Time in Your Browser

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Post by hobarrera »

astalwick wrote: post #135
martypitt wrote: post #121

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No one is obliged to give me money -- unless they consume the content I created. At that point, they are. Anything else assumes that because content exists, people have the right to consume it -- for free if they can work out how. Let's be clear: I fully agree that Hollywood needs to catch up, and make content accessible in the way that Popcorn time has. But I don't have the right to consume content illegally, just b…

I consider piracy to be a form of protest. I'm happy to pay, as long as the terms are reasonable. (I have a Rdio account that's been active for years now - I can't remember the last time I pirated music... I can't remember the last time I pirated software, either). However, in Canada, the only way to watch (for example) Game of Thrones is to a) get a massive cable subscription which includes 1000 channels you don't w…

I had a rdio account once. But it turns out he price they publish is not what they charged (at least were I live), nor was it the currency they displayed (which added a huge extra on bank charges). I was charged around 200% of the published price, all due to them not holding up their end of the deal. I called Visa and rejected the payment, and immediately closed my account.

As for HBO. It's too expensive for me. In the US it may be cheap, but it isn't in other countries. And the web-based version is unavailable "in my region".

I wouldn't mind paying for decent terms, but putting a huge amount of money to watch a single series at a time they dictate, is unacceptable. HBO broadcasts at a certain time, and I have to stick to their schedule. Awful. I've a life. Stuff happens.

Piracy is the only affordable way, and comes with a huge amount of extra bonuses (replay, pause, watch later, no installation cost).

Re: Popcorn Time in Your Browser

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Post by hobarrera »

LLWM wrote: post #255
Sir_Substance wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't get paid for the time after though. If I pay for a concert, and I leave 10% of the way in because it's awful, will I get 90% of my money back? No.

I have never seen a venue that would have failed to give a complete refund in that scenario. That's basic customer service.

In your country/region: maybe. Everywhere: definitely not. The only time I got a refund at a theatre was when a film was dubbed and the ad said subtitled. I left during the first two minutes, and even had to argue to get my money back on such an obvious case.

Re: Popcorn Time in Your Browser

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Post by hobarrera »

IgorPartola wrote: post #141
Sir_Substance wrote: post #108

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You've fallen into the classic trap: No one is obliged to give you money. Finding a business model that works is your problem, not your customers. Forced lock-in is a model, but it's a violent one that makes people want to leave, and it's entirely predicated on there never being an escape hatch for your trapped customers. There is now an escape hatch for content customers. They're no longer beholden to the choice of…

I read GP's comment as "Popcorn Time is popular because it's free. They have no business model." I tend to agree with that. If I started giving away $5 bills for only a $1 each, my "business" would be popular too. That doesn't mean it's a good business to be in, or that it would last any length of time. I am in no way in favor of our current system, and I agree Hollywood needs to find a new model or die, but Popcorn…

However, your analogy is flawed. PT does not give away anything. If you give out $5 bills, you'll run out. PT has no limited resources in that aspect.

Re: Popcorn Time in Your Browser

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Post by hobarrera »

Bladegunner wrote: post #89
nonick wrote: post #74

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Netflix is great, I guess. I would know for sure if they were available in my country. Same as Pandora, Spotify etc.

Try out a vpn, like hola. (note: only have hola active while you are using it, there are some security risks using it.)

So break one law instead of another. There's no advantage to a VPN versus TPB, and you're still ilegally downloading the show (since the licence for the mentioned websites state that it cannot be exported, etc).
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