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Post by beagle3 »

BoppreH wrote: post #249
beagle3 wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Imagine Facebook disappearing with your list of friends, or Google Docs with your documents. Yes, I imagine it on a daily basis. That's how the cloud works. It's happened before, and it will happen again. Any cloud based data is bound to disappear at any second because of a hack (ask Matt Hunan), because of a court order you are not aware of, because of an in-court-or-out-of-court settlement you are not part of and…

Do you keep a backup of your list of Facebook friends, your HN posts and "saved stories"?

Yes, as a matter of fact, I do. Any facebook contact I care about is already in my email program's contacts (Thunderbird, local, backed up) and my phone (contacts) - and I prefer to contact them without using facebook as an intermediary.

Whenever there's an interesting story on HN I think I'd want to refer to later, I bookmark&cache it locally.

And posts/comments I deem worthy to save, I do save a copy of locally, although that's about one in fifty I make.

I know that's not common, and furthermore in the event of a global facebookgeddon, it is likely my bookmarks would be useless. But in the case of a local cloudgeddon (see e.g. the Matt Hunan story), I'm mostly covered.

Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

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Post by morganvachon »

mikeash wrote: post #238
morganvachon wrote: post #222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought Pandora offered playlists in their paid tier? I've never paid for it so I don't know the details of their full service.

Their paid service just removes ads, and adds some minor enhancements like allowing more skips.

>allowing more skips

Hmm, I'd think if I'm paying for the service I could skip as many times as I want.

Thanks for the info!

Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

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Post by mikeash »

morganvachon wrote: post #252
mikeash wrote: post #238

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their paid service just removes ads, and adds some minor enhancements like allowing more skips.

>allowing more skips Hmm, I'd think if I'm paying for the service I could skip as many times as I want. Thanks for the info!

Yeah, you'd think....

Pandora is a weird service. They pay less for their music in exchange for putting restrictions on it that make it less likely to substitute for music purchases. It really is supposed to just be radio, and they do things like limit skips so that you can't just skip ahead until you get to the exact song you want to listen to. The music companies want you to still go out and buy the album if you want to do that. On the other hand, Pandora is cheaper, at $5/month versus, for example, $10/month for Spotify.

Personally, I wish I could get Pandora's selection algorithm's into Spotify and have the best of both worlds.

Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

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Post by aagha »

olalonde wrote: post #122
ignoramous wrote: post #65

This makes me immensely sad as a long time user of Grooveshark. Such contrast in fortunes when you compare YouTube [0] and Grooveshark. Grooveshark, for most part, was an amazing service. They were at the forefront of UI design, brilliant at surfacing new and related content (music), excellent at quality of service (variable bit-rate buffering). You would think that with a good exit to a company like Yahoo or Amazon,…

They had to hand over all their IP as part of the settlement so I doubt the product will be open sourced.

I think he meant make it Open Source before the settlement.

Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

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Post by jamesmiller5 »

8 Years. I have loved and listened on Grooveshark for the last 8 years. Since my first job while in highschool. You were the first app I have ever installed, on my company blackberry so I could listen on the commute. You let me send my highschool sweetheart songs of love and joy, let me express so effortlessly what I wanted to say when words fail. Her and I needed you through long nights at college, keeping us focused and energized. When I scored my first internship we offlined our entire collections for the 36 hour drive from Chicago to California. We drove that 4 more times with you. And finally, after the many years of sharing together and a college degree later, you were there to play the music as she walked down the isle.

I can genuinely say you made my life better, you have given me true happiness. Thank You.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB2YyAgg9Z4

Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

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Post by aagha »

As a long-time Grooveshark user, (paying) subscriber, and partner, this is a very sad event. I echo others in that Grooveshark's music service was one of the best out there in terms of their UI, audio quality and music discovery--I discovered TONS of new bands and artists thanks to them, and bough the music of those I really loved.

A word about Josh Greenberg, the co-founder and CTO of Grooveshark. He's an amazing guy. When I started my startup Metrical[0], he was the first person to give it a try--in a real, production environment. He put us in front of millions of users and was patient as we worked through bugs and issues. He really put faith in someone with a "cool idea" and gave me a shot. Thanks Josh!

Grooveshark was an amazing service, and will be missed. Josh, I'm looking forward to seeing you go on to bigger and better things.

Remember The Man In The Arena, by Theodore Roosevelt:

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.

0 - http://getMetrical.com

Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

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Post by Mike_Oldfield »

Honestly, what was Grooveshark doing that was hurting anybody? If you'd answer by saying 'The artists' or 'the record companies', you're dead wrong. Record companies have insane income, while artists and bands make up a large portion of the world's millionaires. New or less popular artists were sometimes even positively affected by their music being on the site, as it made finding their music easier. The companies who sued are only showing the world what they actually care about. Money. Yeah, money. Cash, loot, dollars, euro, yen, moo-lah. Whatever you want to call it. I'm not saying that Grooveshark was perfect or that it's employees were saints, but I am saying that they were treated unfairly. The RIAA is trash, and Grooveshark's demise is a testament to that. Personally, as a musical artist and as someone who loves music of all kinds, I would never trust my music with any of these companies. The only way I can feel toward artists who go along with what these companies is disgusted. My music will always be allowed on streaming websites, as long as I get proper credit for it, not payment. Credit.

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Post by willismichael »

Jgrubb wrote: post #208
noonespecial wrote: post #137

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"If you love music and respect the artists, songwriters and everyone else who makes great music possible, use a licensed service that compensates artists and other rights holders." It seems so easy compensate that second group that I work harder breathing each day. That first group, it seems like I could get a message to mars easier than to send them a whole dollar.

Buy a t-shirt. That's the most direct route to actually help them out with as few middlemen as possible.

Can somebody verify this? I'm one who used Groove Shark to discovered music that I really like and then bought it in an effort to support the musician (thanks big music, you just took away one of your means of extracting money out of me).

I would happily wear the t-shirt if I knew that it was in fact the most direct route to actually transfer money to the musician.

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Post by ckozlowski »

hbosch wrote: post #220
erglkjahlkh wrote: post #200

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Spotify is very bad for music discovery. It has no random feature, the channels they offer are either hand crafted or based on popularity. The music selection excludes many smaller, and indie, labels. The search functionalities are very limited (the metadata is too low quality). I wanted to love Spotify, and I really gave it a try. I just couldn't keep using it, all it did for me was to make me angry. In the end it's…

Do you ever select an artist or song and make a "Radio Station" from it? I find that to be a great way of finding new artists to enjoy.

You can do the same for playlists too. Makes the seeding even broader.
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