Just a interesting note: Currently (5PM EST) this news is #16 on the reddit front page with only 545 comments.
I figured it would have been higher given the gravity.
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Re: Reddit
#252Earlier quoted context omitted.
However, the lack of transparency can lead to baseless speculation, which can be just as toxic, if not worse . Case in point, during The Fappening, a large number were filled with conspiracy theories on why the administrators hadn't banned it yet before Wong's blog post, which was only made a week after the first incident.
The problem with reddit right now is that community managers are rather ineffective at actually handling the community which leads to the other employees of reddit (engineers) to finally step in. The only time when reddit does usually act is when there are some serious legal implications. This is what often leads to the reddit administrator's actions to be labeled as arbitrary. Although, as of recently the reddit adm…
> Although, as of recently the reddit administrators started banning some of the more racist subreddits
Not completely sure, but IIRC those weren't banned because of racism but brigading/doxing. Which of course is bound to happen with subreddits catering to extremists.
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#253I like Reddit. I recently obtained a data dump of every single submission and comment so I could perform interesting data analysis and may just determine what make a post on Reddit viral. The problem I have with Reddit is that I'm still unsure if it's a positive externality. There's a lot of good aspects of Reddit (discovery, community), but there's so much bad about Reddit that it's impossible to overlook it (abusiv…
That's one big reason why Steve & I wanted it to be open-source! http://code.reddit.com It's not like all forum-software-innovation stopped in June 2005 when the 2 of us launched reddit to the world. The hard part is going to be quantifying "quality of submissions" in a scalable way. We thought a lot about this and while it's not perfect, the vast majority of content on reddit across those half million communities is…
i didn't know reddit data dump's were available, other than crawling with the api. I have plenty of hardware, would love to play around with the data. Could you make it available on an amazon s3 bucket or something ?
Re: Reddit
#254As a long time Reddit user, I've been really disappointed lately with Reddits "battle" against content creators and the little recourse you have if you are marked as a spammer or shadow banned. See the recent /r/indiegaming debacle for example, where a subreddit where mainly indie devs would post about their games now allows very little self promotion ( http://redd.it/2fdwyv ). Some of these rules are Reddit wide so…
You are confusing mods and admins.
> For example, if you make a few self posts, make tons of comments, post links to 5 different websites, then post 1 link to your website, you are breaking the rule and if a mod sees it you can be banned (comments/self posts don't count towards the 90/10 rule so your 5 posts to 1 self promotion post is breaking the rules).
Some admin recently said that something like that has never happened. Only flagrant violators of that rule get shadowbanned by the admins.
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#255Re: Reddit
#256"It’s always bothered me that users create so much of the value of sites like reddit but don’t own any of it. So, the Series B Investors are giving 10% of our shares in this round to the people in the reddit community, and I hope we increase community ownership over time. We have some creative thoughts about the mechanics of this, but it’ll take us awhile to sort through all the issues. If it works as we hope, it’s g…
Looks like it is going to be a cryptocurrency:
Re: Reddit
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Heavily moderated subreddits are another way to get great quality content. The only problem with this is that it relies on volunteer moderators who devote large amounts of their free time to making the site a better place.
Heavily moderated subreddits are Reddit's biggest problem. Time and again, the volunteer moderators prove that they cannot be impartial, and bias creeps in, inevitably culminating in a bizarre power struggle with the normal users. I've seen it so many times. This isn't helped by the fact that the majority of popular subreddits are moderated by the same people, resulting in a kind of weird cabal situation. I'm not sur…
I disagree. I think responsible moderation is not only positive, but mandatory for a community to maintain any sort of quality. Hacker News is moderated (usually quite well), and it would be far worse without that moderation. Likewise, /r/science would be a shit show without moderation; and /r/science is perhaps the heaviest moderated subreddit I subscribe to, including some quite controversial ones.
I don't know that the "one sub per mod" rule would be a net win; responsible volunteer moderators are hard to come by.
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>Reddit is the upvote, not the moderator, isn't it? In theory. In practice, strong moderators become more important the larger the community gets. And reddit is a very, very large community. >The whole driving premise of Reddit is the upvote, and that's an incredibly powerful concept. It's powerful, but not always in a good way. I think one of the better examples is looking at the difference between /r/gaming (light…
But don't you see how problematic your argument is? You more or less beg the entire question by saying, "/r/games actually has content worth reading" -- I mean this in a non-offensive way, but who are you to say that? What's "content worth reading" for you may not actually be content worth reading for anyone else. That's how I see the design of Reddit -- it doesn't seem to me to be the place where every single link i…
There are hundreds of thousands of voters participating on /r/all content. Your vote isn't going to matter whatsoever except in the critical time between when something is first submitted and when it falls off of the new submissions page (and rising page, and controversial page).
A ten minute conversation with the average voter will repel you from the idea that eveyone should want to listen to what 51% of most people would upvote, or should dislike what 51% of people would downvote. But your frontpage will be filled with the former, and you'll never be able to find the gems in the latter without serious time investment.
Upvote isn't enough. Hence, moderation.
Re: Reddit
#259Earlier quoted context omitted.
But don't you see how problematic your argument is? You more or less beg the entire question by saying, "/r/games actually has content worth reading" -- I mean this in a non-offensive way, but who are you to say that? What's "content worth reading" for you may not actually be content worth reading for anyone else. That's how I see the design of Reddit -- it doesn't seem to me to be the place where every single link i…
There are hundreds of thousands of voters participating on /r/all content. Your vote isn't going to matter whatsoever except in the critical time between when something is first submitted and when it falls off of the new submissions page (and rising page, and controversial page). A ten minute conversation with the average voter will repel you from the idea that eveyone should want to listen to what 51% of most people…
Your vote isn't supposed to matter, not any more than anyone else's vote. That's the entire premise of democracy, in fact, a fact that's completely and utterly ruined by the arbitrary nature of moderation.
The idea that you'd ever go to reddit.com or reddit.com/r/foo and see nothing but gems is a pipe dream. You're asking other people to do your work for you. You are the one who's supposed to contribute your up/downvote.
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I was a founding moderator of /r/gamernews, which was founded with a seriously different mindset than that of r/gamingnews or r/gaming. When we started, we had a lot of people coming from the other communities trying to force in memes, rumors, blogspam, and other things that were against our founding principles. It took a few months before the submitted content matched the community we were looking for. Trolls realiz…
This is a really interesting idea. I wonder if there were a way to track per-reddit karma, and only allow redditors to vote in a certain subreddit once their karma reaches a threshold or account age. (Just like HN, but per-subreddit.)