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Re: OS X Yosemite

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Post by cmiles74 »

danford wrote: post #191
demallien wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, linux geeks can school Apple on systems engineering when they can deliver laptops with a better battery life than Macs get. As for this latest release, what, adding a new systems programming language and a whole new graphics API isn't enough? At least my Mac recognizes and uses a second monitor when I plug it in, unlike the bloody Fedora 19 box that I use at work. And don't get me started on that second graphics…

> deliver laptops with a better battery life than Macs get Well Linux gets better battery life on my laptop than OS X. (11 hours with ubuntu gnome 14.04). > my Mac recognizes and uses a second monitor when I plug it in Not mine. And this is a common problem: http://www.imore.com/os-x-mavericks-problems-drive-me-nuts-h... Also, I had issues with sound going out and not returning until after a reboot on OS X. This drov…

This is a fair point: Apple has carefully selected the hardware that OS X runs on. Most people interested in Linux expect it to support, without issue, whatever laptop happens to be lying around.

Re: OS X Yosemite

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Post by cmiles74 »

tim333 wrote: post #245
AaronFriel wrote: post #147

I am deeply disappointed by the "development" of OS X. It seems that Apple has long ago gutted their x86 OS group due to dwindling profits and lack of real competition. There are a handful of reasons people buy a Mac, and I would largely put them into three groups: * Students looking for a stable and/or sexy device for their university. * Artists using applications that don't exist on other platforms (or that priorit…

>Microsoft invested in platform features and then didn't sell users on what it could do with Vista. I think you are focusing on features that are unimportant to most users. People hated Vista because it was so slow, clunky and crashed. I remain amazed that between clicking a folder an seeing a file within it can take about a minute on my friends old Vista machine. I'm also pleasantly surprised on my MacBook that it p…

I believe that compelling end-user features could be developed on top of the work Microsoft has done on their kernel. A good part of what's missing is somehow selling developers on these platform features. And, of course, Microsoft should lead the way and leverage this tech themselves.

Re: OS X Yosemite

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Post by Shivetya »

oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #228
lucian1900 wrote: post #220

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The filesystem is the worst of all modern platforms. It's in dire need of an upgrade, which doesn't appear to be coming.

Aside from: - silly mixed-case directories with spaces - case-insensitive filenames what negative aspects of the filesystem would affect an 'intermediate' user (e.g. a high-level hacker) on a day-to-day basis? Admittedly, those two are very frustrating, but I'm struggling to think of any others.

how about locking my entire system when it wakes externally connected USB drives, namely my time machine. Oddly it seems to occur while I surf.

That and permissions seem to get screwy at times. I had a long running issue where I could not launch JAR files, found others with similar issues and finally figured out, I no longer had permission to my own user folder and the JAR I was launching needed to create a working directory. Ended up solving the problem for more than myself.

I still try to figure out the desire for case sensitivity in about anything

Re: OS X Yosemite

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Post by paulrov »

archagon wrote: post #43
devindotcom wrote: post #38

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First thing I thought of. "Look at how the background beautifully interacts with the translucent menu bar." Didn't we all turn that feature off back in 2007?! Though in fairness that was partly because it was such a hog on Vista. I've left translucency on in Win 7, though it sure isn't a productivity boost and it ain't 'beautiful' either.

Apple people like to mock Aero's translucency, but I... always liked it. Anyone else? Anyone?

Funny how things come around, although the Aero glass effect is noticeably a rather poor box blur effect while the OS X has more the appearance of an extreme gaussian blur.

This does make the iOS/OS X version more tasteful.

Re: OS X Yosemite

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Post by sbuk »

espadrine wrote: post #120
klrr wrote: post #75

Those bars looks surprisingly close to GNOMEs' ones.

This browser looks surprisingly close to GNOME's one. https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Web?action=AttachFile&do=get&tar... http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/IMG_96...

It looks virtually identical to the iPad one.

http://media.idownloadblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/io...

Re: OS X Yosemite

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Post by archagon »

oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #228
lucian1900 wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The filesystem is the worst of all modern platforms. It's in dire need of an upgrade, which doesn't appear to be coming.

Aside from: - silly mixed-case directories with spaces - case-insensitive filenames what negative aspects of the filesystem would affect an 'intermediate' user (e.g. a high-level hacker) on a day-to-day basis? Admittedly, those two are very frustrating, but I'm struggling to think of any others.

Man, I sure hope Apple's next FS keeps both of those features. I think most ordinary users find them very valuable.

Re: OS X Yosemite

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Post by orkoden »

oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #228
lucian1900 wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The filesystem is the worst of all modern platforms. It's in dire need of an upgrade, which doesn't appear to be coming.

Aside from: - silly mixed-case directories with spaces - case-insensitive filenames what negative aspects of the filesystem would affect an 'intermediate' user (e.g. a high-level hacker) on a day-to-day basis? Admittedly, those two are very frustrating, but I'm struggling to think of any others.

http://arstechnica.com/apple/2011/07/mac-os-x-10-7/12/

Re: OS X Yosemite

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Post by kybernetyk »

shaan7 wrote: post #207
demallien wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, linux geeks can school Apple on systems engineering when they can deliver laptops with a better battery life than Macs get. As for this latest release, what, adding a new systems programming language and a whole new graphics API isn't enough? At least my Mac recognizes and uses a second monitor when I plug it in, unlike the bloody Fedora 19 box that I use at work. And don't get me started on that second graphics…

Dell XPS Ultrabook with Kubuntu 14.04 here, without any patches or extra settings. 11W consumption with medium screen brightness, works for ~5 hours with normal browsing (occasional compiling) Recognizes all monitors and projectors (even the ones Macs fail at) at my work place. The WiFi just works (TM). You are not using a "Ubuntu laptop". As danford said, just pick a Ubuntu certified machine* and things will just wo…

> 11W consumption with medium screen brightness

That's a lot actually. Current MBAs are around 5 watts with full screen brightness.

Re: OS X Yosemite

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Post by snowwrestler »

AaronFriel wrote: post #147

I am deeply disappointed by the "development" of OS X. It seems that Apple has long ago gutted their x86 OS group due to dwindling profits and lack of real competition. There are a handful of reasons people buy a Mac, and I would largely put them into three groups: * Students looking for a stable and/or sexy device for their university. * Artists using applications that don't exist on other platforms (or that priorit…

There's some sort of weird double standard being applied in this post. Linux and Windows internals are named and enumerated in great detail, but none of the recent developments of OS X are (see, for example, the Siracusa reviews on ArsTechnica). Is it possible you're just more familiar with the details of Linux and Windows internals?

Just one example:

Mac: > Full disk encryption and home folder support is, again, hack-ish, and largely built on work other people did.

Windows: > Full disk encryption improved - though home folder encryption is still tragically stuck with NTFS "EFS" support (lackluster, at best.)

Somehow this supposed to show that Windows is doing it better than Mac?

Re: OS X Yosemite

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Post by dalanmiller »

demallien wrote: post #161
Angostura wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mavericks introduced a lot of tangible under the hood improvements that perhaps you missed, Ars did a thorough review, perhaps start with how the OS was changed to improve energy consumption: http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/10/os-x-10-9/12/#energy-sa...

Yes, linux geeks can school Apple on systems engineering when they can deliver laptops with a better battery life than Macs get. As for this latest release, what, adding a new systems programming language and a whole new graphics API isn't enough? At least my Mac recognizes and uses a second monitor when I plug it in, unlike the bloody Fedora 19 box that I use at work. And don't get me started on that second graphics…

I have but one upvote to give you sir in distinguishing the reality of high quality Apple products vs Linux fanboyism.
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