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As far as I can tell, HTTPSB is not available for Firefox, please fix! I would love to use something better than ABP (in terms of performance, it does content filtering just fine), but I'm not so desperate to abandon the (warning: subjective content ahead) greatest browser of all times to lower the memory footprint of an ad blocker.
Block known ad IPs and domains at the router or local level. This is what we did before adblock plus.
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#252This is like a commercial for forking Firefox to build highly efficient ad blocking into the browser. It's sad that the most-demanded feature on every browser, as evidenced by plugin downloads, is ad blocking. However, all the major browsers are produced by companies with their hands in advertising, and this conflict of interest has resulted in this feature request going unfulfilled for a over a decade. Fork 'em.
What business model do you envision for the web, then? Sure, my own websites are ad-free, but they're purely hobby projects and I don't feel like the (small?) income would be worth the personal discomfort of "selling out". For those who can't afford to develop and host good content for free, what's the solution?
I often dream of a world where x% of my ISP bill is paid out in micropayments to the content providers (think about it, we pay ISPs for infrastructure that would be worthless without content, and they get all the cont for free). But that ignores actual bits, so in the end I wish there was a protocol for me to pay for the content I want, and in exchange the provider would give me ad-free content. Now imagine I could choose (or have a browser setting) what level of payment vs. ads I want on each website.
I realize it can't be that simple, the economics of the Internet (from end to end) are much more complicated.
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#253I use the program Ad Muncher for Windows, and I've found that it sometimes becomes a humongous bandwidth hog, when I'm watching video. So it's not just memory that can be at risk of hogging.
are you sure its Ad Muncher using bandwidth and not, you know, the video you're watching?
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Exactly, they had their chance, and they abused the privilege, so now we've taken it away.
Tell me about it man; I found that food was getting kind of expensive at some of the restaurants I frequented so now I just dine-and-dash, several times a week. Restaurants as a whole had their chance to charge me for food, they abused it, so I took that right away. /s
Re: AdBlock Plus’s effect on Firefox’s memory usage
#255Use Bluhell Firewall and NoScript for Firefox instead of ABP. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/bluhell-firew...
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#257It's not just memory overhead, it is also CPU overhead. One approach is to write the filtering engine from scratch. It is what I did, without looking at ABP's code beforehand in order to ensure a clean slate mind. I didn't get it right the first time, I did spend quite a large amount of time benchmarking, measuring, prototyping, etc. Once I was satisfied I had finally had a solid code base, I went and benchmarked it…
I wanted to try your plugin, but by default I can't load: gmail, aws cloud services panel, and another cloud provider's configuration panel. Maybe I don't know how to use it, but what are you trying to accomplish by preventing me from loading mail.google.com by default?!
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>Firefox still renders plain-text HTML that contains nothing more than , and just fine Not as well as it used to! Specifically, in the browsers of the 1990s you could "scroll while dragging": i.e., if you start dragging to select some text and you reach the bottom of the window, the window would scroll, allowing you to select more text than just what was on the screen when you started dragging. But at least in Firefo…
This works for me right now on firefox 29.
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Many people think of a browser as a tool for displaying text and pictures, with maybe a bit of JS code and some CSS effects on the side. That was true in the late 90s, but these days a browser is actually a fully-fledged programming environment that also happens to have some incredibly sophisticated multimedia capabilities: text, images, video, audio, animations, 3d graphics, etc. The most popular websites run quite…
> That was true in the late 90s, but these days a browser is actually a fully-fledged programming environment that also happens to have some incredibly sophisticated multimedia capabilities: text, images, video, audio, animations, 3d graphics, etc. Maybe I just miss the 90s, but I would much rather have the simple content browser than a "full-fledged programming environment", especially since all of that content is c…
This is one thing I wish more people would try (as I am), and quite honestly don't think is as hard as the big browser vendors make it out to be; my view is that the complexity in mainstream browser engines appears mainly based on how they were designed and implemented, and not as a consequence of the web standards they need to implement. The massive numbers of abstraction layers certainly contribute, as is the notion that everything should be extremely flexible and extensible (Web standards don't change all that often, and when they do they tend to do so incrementally.) It would certainly be interesting to see the limits of how simple (in terms of lines of code, binary size, etc.) and/or fast you could make a web browser and still e.g. have it pass Acid2, which probably makes it quite usable for much of the non-webapp part of the Internet.
text, images, video, audio, animations, 3d graphics, etc.
One only has to look at demoscene productions to see that providing a rich multimedia experience doesn't necessarily require all that much in the way of computational resources, and that's partly a reason why I believe web browsers could be made vastly more efficient than the norm today.
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You assume his computer is new enough to support more than 1GB.
If the computer is that old, then the user is an outlier and not the target audience for the modern major browsers. Better off finding a niche browser.
It is hard to find a working niche browser when Mozilla and Google are doing everything to make sure the web depends on their behemoths' complexity. They are pushing for the Web Platform. They are constantly adding new features.
I used to use Links 2 as my primary browser until about a year or two ago. I would have preferred to keep using it (actually I still do, but it's no longer primary), but one day, a few years ago, Google said let's kill IE6. I can't remember the date. But I know web devs had a party and since that day, the amount of Javascript on the web has skyrocketed, and it's gone from an optional "experience enhancer" to a requirement in many cases. So I'm not given much choice.
But this isn't just about me personally; I could buy a new computer today if I wanted to. What people have pointed out elsewhere in the comments is true -- there are people who still have old computers, much older than mine. And people (parents too) who cannot afford much else besides aging second hand machines.