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GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

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Re: GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

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Technically this means that GCHQ likely have the single largest archive of child porn in the world. It isn't exactly news that people from the ages of 12-17 are using video chat to share erotic images (e.g. SnapChat), and if GCHQ is storing one snap every five minutes, they likely have billions of nudes of people below the age of 18.

There was a comment on reddit that they are immune to these laws. Kind of makes sense? I mean, if the police are investigating child porn, and take the hard drive, they're not really going to be charged with possessing it. That's my take at least.

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ISTR that in the futuristic dystopia depicted in V for Vendetta , there are government spy cameras everywhere, including in people's bedrooms. And it turns out that's not so futuristic. We're already there. The moment it became technically (Edit: and really, economically) feasible to spy on people's bedrooms, our governments leapt at the chance. I wonder what Alan Moore would have to say about that. We didn't have to…

> ISTR

"I seem to remember" would have saved a lot of people a lot of time.

Apologies, but this is a BB of TLBD

Re: GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

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I see you decided to omit Matthew 5:18. Don't pretend it doesn't exist. They are the actual words of Jesus if you believe that the Bible was inspired by god. See my other comment here for more.

I also 'omitted' the rest of the bible. I quoted the whole verse of Matthew 5:17. I don't see any issue with Matthew 5:18 in regards to my statement.

It is the next sentence said by Jesus himself, confirming the law of the prophets: "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass away from the law, till all things be accomplished."

I don't see heaven and earth passed away, so the laws of the prophets still hold according to Jesus himself. He said that. Written one sentence after the one you quote claiming the opposite. So you decided not to believe what Jesus said. Fine with me. I believe the Bible is written by humans and that the humans invented all the gods.

But anyway we should discuss what GCHQ did with webcam streams of at least millions of people! What is your opinion on that?

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The LED light on the webcam is bypass-able. On many cheap laptops it is controlled in software (at the kernel level), but even on Macs where it is meant to be hardware enforced it can be bypassed: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/12/18... Disabling the camera LED is a fairly standard feature in malware suites. Even a lot of USB webcams control the LED from software. The LED is just a feel-good f…

The only surefire way to disable your webcam is to place a little square of gaffer or electrical tape over it. Total cost: $0.01 and can be reversed in an instant. (Doesn't help with the microphone)

I started doing this after seeing a guy selling widgets for it on Shark Tank. Though, I followed the shark's advice and just used a post it. But as someone whose laptop is pointed at their bed, this seemed like a necessity.

Re: GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

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I'll cite a source for you: "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

Not to get too far afield from the original post, or to start a religious debate where we end up calling each other Hitler, but I've got some good stuff for you: "But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart." (Matthew 5:28) "If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulte…

Hahaha! It has always amazed me how people indebted to intellectual discussions via the culture of a forum completely disregard all historical context of an ancient peoples. xD

I get that it's the "in" thing now to hate on ancient texts to seem smart but ...

Quoting a writing from the ancient Jewish leader Moses is equivalent to studying the history of the peoples in those times and locations. Please, note that basically ALL nations used an enslavement "banking" system that basically boiled down to: You pay off your credit card by working for the creditor for a few years (or for however many years the owner thought was sufficient).

It has absolutely nothing to do with recent American slavery traditions embedded in deep racism and superiority complexes.

The only similarities are the translation of the word: slave.

The economics of ancient cultures was drastically different from how it has been for all post-1600s Bank of England cultures. :P

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Charlie Stross on the topic: http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2014/02/rule-34-... 'For starters, it turns out that 3-11% of Yahoo! webcam traffic involves "undesirable nudity"' "I am still trying to get my head around the implications that the British government's equivalent of the NSA probably holds the world's largest collection of pornographic videos, that the stash is probably contaminated with serious…

Not only a large collection of porn. A large collection of kiddie porn. Many of those webcam users are underage.

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-- Top comment on Reddit [0]: 'This clearly violates both EU and British law. It's simple: Parliament and the CPS can no longer ignore GCHQ's abuses and the entirely inadequate 'oversight' regime of the Intelligence and Security Committee. Brooks et al. go on trial for allegedly hacking celebrities' voicemail messages, but Cabinet ministers walk free after approving secret suspicion-less dragnet recording of millions…

DanBC has the better comment (currently below this one) - I'm not qualified to respond, but it deserves one. Upvote him. I just wanted to point out that (from their mobile sites) I couldn't find a single story about this on CNN, FoxNews or MSNBC. (4:36pm CST) Last time I made a fuss about the media I had Godwin's law and Occam's Razor cited in replies/counters as why bias in the press is purely organic in nature. As…

> points to an invisible hand

Or that the average US citizen (the market for those news corps) doesn't give jack shit about it (not that this is a good thing). Netizens and UK citizens don't factor into the equation for these companies.

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DanBC has the better comment (currently below this one) - I'm not qualified to respond, but it deserves one. Upvote him. I just wanted to point out that (from their mobile sites) I couldn't find a single story about this on CNN, FoxNews or MSNBC. (4:36pm CST) Last time I made a fuss about the media I had Godwin's law and Occam's Razor cited in replies/counters as why bias in the press is purely organic in nature. As…

> points to an invisible hand Or that the average US citizen (the market for those news corps) doesn't give jack shit about it (not that this is a good thing). Netizens and UK citizens don't factor into the equation for these companies.

That's the simpler explanation, but Occam's Razor is a thin reed to lean on, because simpler doesn't equate to correctness. Let's inspect: "the US market doesn't give jack shit". But how would we know? The media hasn't even tried.

I imagine this would piss me off if I were a Rachael-Maddow-watching soccer mom. Show anchors are hired for their ability to work up their viewers. Taking pics of me in my underwear is a softball. Notice rasz_pl's comment below -- any producer worth a damn sees the potential in this scandal. So why is Brian Williams not leading off with it on the Nightly News as he did with the snoopware-webcam story from over a year ago? Who the fuck can tell me that? Open your fucking eyes man, and start asking your own questions.

As for "this only pertains to UK citizens" - this program wasn't limited to the UK. In many ways, the UK spying on the US is more sensational. Furthermore, the NSA and GCHQ have blurred the lines between jurisdictions. As for "only netizens would care" -- most people use the Internet. Yahoo is an everyman portal. This is an egregious invasion of privacy. Who cares if you're a netizen on this story? The story's content is not to blame either; general viewership can be enraged about esoteric things too (a great ex. the "bridge to nowhere" - just think about it).

The US would care if the baby-boomer/mainstream media tried to cover it, at all.

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Says who? Definitely not Jesus himself as quoted in the New Testament (his words, directly quoted): Matthew 5:17-18 "Think not that I came to destroy the law or the prophets: I came not to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass away from the law, till all things be accomplished." The "law or the prophets" is, of course, everythin…

Actually, you are wrong in this case. :/ Christians have absolutely no responsibility towards the Mosaic Law and only strictly towards the teachings of Jesus (whom they declare their leader). Paul says this in a letter to a group of new Christians living in Collosae (modern day Turkey)sometime in the mid 1st century (50-60 C.E.) [0] [0] http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Colossians+2%3A1...

So you don't believe the words Jesus is quoted to say? Why? Who's more to believe, Jesus or Paul?

But back to the topic, tell me, do you approve what GCHQ did?

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