"And when Jobs (in the movie, but really a board does this) denied stock to the early garage team (some not even shown) I'm surprised that they chose not to show me giving about $10M of my own stock to them because it was the right thing. And $10M was a lot in that time." Nothing more need be said, really. This is the very definition of character and integrity.
And this as well:
"I begged Steve that we donate the first Apple I to a woman who took computers into elementary schools but he made my buy it and donate it myself."
"And when Jobs (in the movie, but really a board does this) denied stock to the early garage team (some not even shown) I'm surprised that they chose not to show me giving about $10M of my own stock to them because it was the right thing. And $10M was a lot in that time." Nothing more need be said, really. This is the very definition of character and integrity.
"And $10M was a lot in that time." I love this. Classic Steve Wozniak humor.
My guess is if it werent't for Wozniak, Steve Jobs would have found himself another Wozniak or would have put himself into a situation where he would have not needed a Wozniak. What has Wozniak accomplished since he left Apple?
> My guess is if it werent't for Wozniak, Steve Jobs would have found himself another Wozniak or would have put himself into a situation where he would have not needed a Wozniak. Unless you're religious or believe in fate, Jobs life would probably be very different. He could become a successful artist or car salesman or crack cocaine dealer, but unlikely a tech visionary.
Steve Jobs left Apple, wasn't Wozniak there that whole time? Then he came back and lo and behold, not just did a good job of running the company but turned it into world's biggest company by market cap. Could Woz have done that? Once they parted ways, Woz did not much ( relatively ), while Jobs did a lot.
There are new comments from Woz posted today on the original Google+ post's comment thread. https://plus.google.com/u/0/+CarmsPerez/posts/GnVTvQNgvpf
The replies are interesting indeed: >Actually, Jobs was not fired. He could have been well funded to develop any product, even something like the NeXT, right at Apple. He was removed from running Macintosh because he had no good constructive ideas that were needed to save the company. He felt that some small adjustments in pricing, and diverting funds from our revenue source, the Apple ][, would make the Macintosh an…
Jobs supposedly erroneously sabotages the cash cow. Job leaves, thank god. Everything is honky dory because Woz is still there? It sounds to me a bit like Woz is wishing for something that didn't quite pan out like that
Given the uncertainties and rounding involved, it makes (a lot) more sense to say $30M
No, it doesn't. What would make more sense is showing the calculation. Also it's nitpicky. If you wanted to use significant figures, it would make more sense to say $28 million or $28.4 million. Going to one significant figure is overkill. Whether you trust the CPI or not, those that made it chose more than one digit for it. Also I feel it's just a coincidence that Woz chose a round 10. I think he chose to make it a…
I actually think it's borderline impossible to inflation adjust $10M 197x (for any value of x) dollars to today's money in any reasonable way, given the dramatic changes in lifestyle and how they affect any plausible representative basket of goods. So I profoundly disagree with you. If anything, there should be much more uncertainty than my $30M, that sort of implies between $25 and $35M (approx), still too precise for me. Your suggestions of $28M or $28.4M I feel are absurd. Although not nearly as absurd as using 10 full figures of significance. Finance is the only field where that occurs routinely, and I can never understand why nobody gets called on it (hence my original comment). I agree with you on the number Woz chose. Basically he was choosing a round number that was a "whole lot of money", and no doubt today he would choose an even bigger round number that's still "a whole lot of money".
"And when Jobs (in the movie, but really a board does this) denied stock to the early garage team (some not even shown) I'm surprised that they chose not to show me giving about $10M of my own stock to them because it was the right thing. And $10M was a lot in that time." Nothing more need be said, really. This is the very definition of character and integrity.
They did show that in "Pirates of Silicon Valley" !
They alluded to it in one scene I believe, while Jobs in the movie is taking to his ex girlfriend on the phone at a banquet, Woz talks tell Jobs that they should give stocks to the early guys.
"And when Jobs (in the movie, but really a board does this) denied stock to the early garage team (some not even shown) I'm surprised that they chose not to show me giving about $10M of my own stock to them because it was the right thing. And $10M was a lot in that time." Nothing more need be said, really. This is the very definition of character and integrity.
If only we could celebrate that kind of integrity on the par with brilliant salesmanship. Think a world without Jobs, or a world without Woz, which one is a sadder place?
They did show that in "Pirates of Silicon Valley" !
They alluded to it in one scene I believe, while Jobs in the movie is taking to his ex girlfriend on the phone at a banquet, Woz talks tell Jobs that they should give stocks to the early guys.
And there is the scene where Woz tells Jobs that he'd given them some of his own stocks (or similar). I was watching "Jobs", and was shocked that it was not in there. Very poor portrayal. Pirates was much more balanced.
Hmm, I'd put Jobs lower and Musk higher; I'd suggest we're overscoring Steve Jobs still. Paypal is clearly already a big success though, and both Tesla and SpaceX have the potential to become so in the coming years. For me, we're still under Jobs' reality distortion field. I mean, which companies did he build? NeXT which did interesting technology but basically died in the market. Pixar where there's significant disp…
Paypal is interesting and a niche success, but wasn't deeply visionary. SpaceX and Tesla are cool, and may even end up being market successes - but they still have a ways to go before proving themselves. I'm a Musk fan, but Jobs had a huge body of work in fantastic products/movies that his enterprises created under his leadership. a trend which is showing no sign of abating and every likelihood of levelling out in mu…
IBM isn't hip, but it's still a meaningful company that's thriving.
No, it doesn't. What would make more sense is showing the calculation. Also it's nitpicky. If you wanted to use significant figures, it would make more sense to say $28 million or $28.4 million. Going to one significant figure is overkill. Whether you trust the CPI or not, those that made it chose more than one digit for it. Also I feel it's just a coincidence that Woz chose a round 10. I think he chose to make it a…
I actually think it's borderline impossible to inflation adjust $10M 197x (for any value of x) dollars to today's money in any reasonable way, given the dramatic changes in lifestyle and how they affect any plausible representative basket of goods. So I profoundly disagree with you. If anything, there should be much more uncertainty than my $30M, that sort of implies between $25 and $35M (approx), still too precise f…
I think people who care just get used to reading notes on the numbers instead of having the numbers sanitized before they get to them. I agree it's a problem but I think the best solution is to get more people to read the notes than to sanitize the numbers. I think the numbers should have most of their figures dropped, though.