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The founder has been doing this for 4 months and he is healthier than when he started. What makes you think this is a bad idea other than "waaahh they are not food scientists!"?
Soylent Campaign
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#252Earlier quoted context omitted.
Soylent got a fact wrong. Either they deliberately misreported something; in which case they're lying while trying to raise money. Or they made a mistake. And if they get something this simple wrong why should I trust them when they're making something that I'm supposed to be able to live on?
PBS and Science Magazine allegedly got some facts wrong. Regardless, the WHO is talking about three billion indoor fires in primitive homes. In most of these cases, there is no distinction between a "cooking stove" and "heating stove" and whether these families require heating year round or not, cooking is not a seasonal activity. Splitting hairs on this point is dumb, though. The point of citing it at all is to illu…
> They want to solve the entire world's food problem. Isn't that scale of vision why we're all here?
That's an amazing vision. Soylent shows little to no understanding of the actual problems of food security. There doesn't appear to be any research into the causes of food scarcity, or who is affected by food scarcity, or what a sensible solution would be.
Soylent glop doesn't seem to do anything to increase local independence. Where food could be grown and sold locally now people are importing a bunch of stuff from elsewhere.
Here are some people in Mogadishu selling food. (http://www.irinnews.org/Photo/Details/201207161308270312/Veg...)
How much Soylent does this child need? (http://pinterest.com/pin/278519558175219781/)
How do you get Soylent to the Democratic Republic of Congo?
What do you do when people don't have clean water?
Soylent have made a strong link between food waste and world hunger. They claim that waste here causes hunger there. That's clearly, blatantly, wrong.
I'm all for big ideas and thinking big, but so far this is either a cynical scam or brutally ignorant.
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The founder has been doing this for 4 months and he is healthier than when he started. What makes you think this is a bad idea other than "waaahh they are not food scientists!"?
If you think that a sample of 1 is enough to validate the safety of this substance, then you need to just stop commenting on this article. You have absolutely no idea how science works.
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#254I'm in for $65, because I've run out of patience with everyone wisely nodding caution and not trying to solve the problem themselves. Like a lot of metabolically disadvantaged people, I feel betrayed and tossed off a cliff by a society that doesn't understand and doesn't care. You want to know how desperate we are? Read this: http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=35... That's the next alternative…
I'm confused by what you're trying to protest/demand. What's "metabolically disadvantaged"? Are you suffering from a medical condition for which no satisfactory diet (in the proper sense of the term) has been developed? I'm not sure I have all the background information necessary to properly understand all the intricacies of what the OP in the link you posted is describing; but it sounds like what he's going through…
>>What's "metabolically disadvantaged"? Are you suffering from a medical condition for which no satisfactory diet (in the proper sense of the term) has been developed?
In the vast majority of cases, "metabolically disadvantaged" means "lazy and sedentary" without actually taking the responsibility for it. It's similar to blaming one's obesity on "genetics" or "body shape" or being "big-boned." (The last one is especially funny. Guess why your bones are big. It's because they have to carry all your fat!)
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The founder has been doing this for 4 months and he is healthier than when he started. What makes you think this is a bad idea other than "waaahh they are not food scientists!"?
Wow, 4 months really is a long time! I always thought drug companies were slow testing new drugs out for years!
He is healthier than when he started? By what metric and for how long will that last?
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And Benjamin Franklin was a printer, but he still invented the lighting rod and bi-focals.
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The founder has been doing this for 4 months and he is healthier than when he started. What makes you think this is a bad idea other than "waaahh they are not food scientists!"?
Are you hearing what you are saying? One person with a vested interest said it works...therefore it must be good? Do you buy stuff from infomercials?
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The founder has been doing this for 4 months and he is healthier than when he started. What makes you think this is a bad idea other than "waaahh they are not food scientists!"?
do you think that 4 months is an adequate time scale to know all the effects of switching to this type of "diet"? humans have been eating whole foods for ~100k years.
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#259Earlier quoted context omitted.
In your boundless zeal for "innovation," you have completely failed to comprehend what I was saying. Putting someone in the hospital is no laughing matter. You can't just "iterate" and "learn from your mistakes" in biotech. We're talking about life and death here, not some filtered hipster cat photos.
We're talking about life and death now? That's quite the extreme you've just jumped to. After reading through the ingredients being used in Soylent none of them seem particularly life threatening (Cached version, site seems to be slammed: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:f487PaT... ). I admit they need a warning of some sort on the campaign, and they should probably link to his blog posts about ev…
> After reading through the ingredients being used in Soylent none of them seem particularly life threatening
It's not what's in this product, it's what this product is purported to replace. I don't see anything inherently harmful in a wooden frame until it's marketed as a drop-in replacement for reinforced steel construction.
This product is being marketed as an alternative to food.
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#260Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most people would regard riding a horse as a pleasant thing to do in leisure time, but most today would also balk at the idea of having to care, feed, and maintain a horse to get to work every single day. I realize this is anathema (I love food as much as anyone else) but there are moments in my life where I'd like to code or create things rather than worry too much about my next meal.
I'm sorry but I find that a poor example. You have to maintain a car, feed it (oil/diesel/electricity) and care for it (regular washing), otherwise it will go the 'way of the horse' ... I agree with you on your last statement but I don't think soylent is a solution to that problem. I don't think a formula will have the nutritious benefit of a manually prepared fresh meal.
It's a great example. Cars started out needing much more maintenance than they do now, but they're steadily getting better, and so should food.