David Sacks: OpenAI and Anthropic Don't Need Regulations to Pace Frontier Models • Hacker News Board

Re: David Sacks: OpenAI and Anthropic Don't Need Regulations to Pace Frontier Models

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Post by anon291 » Mon, Sep 14, 2026, 2:37 PM UTC

preommr wrote: post #75

deagle50 wrote: post #56

I'll go a step further, they aren't just pretending, they are blackmailing the country. The sane response would be "we don't negotiate with terrorists, and you will face criminal and financial penalties for damages caused."

> and you will face criminal and financial penalties for damages caused. I don't understand why this isn't talked about more. We don't need a slowdown. Just double down on prosecuting crimes. Let the companies take the risk. If they feel confident and they're right they win market share. If they don't feel confident, they can not risk it and slow down. If they feel confident and they get it wrong, they should be sued…

It's not talked about because the media frames AI as having agency on its own, which it does not. This talk from these companies of 'losing control' (no control was lost... Companies failed to monitor the workings of their agents) is meant to convince people the ai systems have wills of their own

The AI company's goal is to make ai agents a separate subject of the law so the CEO and executives who would normally be held accountable get to go Scot free.

Re: David Sacks: OpenAI and Anthropic Don't Need Regulations to Pace Frontier Models

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Post by anon291 » Mon, Sep 14, 2026, 2:37 PM UTC

charlieyu1 wrote: post #237

deagle50 wrote: post #56

I'll go a step further, they aren't just pretending, they are blackmailing the country. The sane response would be "we don't negotiate with terrorists, and you will face criminal and financial penalties for damages caused."

Why are we having drama queens like Dario leading enterprises worth billions suddenly?

I hope his shareholders sue him to oblivion

Re: David Sacks: OpenAI and Anthropic Don't Need Regulations to Pace Frontier Models

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Post by freejazz » Mon, Sep 14, 2026, 2:46 PM UTC

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #214

freejazz wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, why doesn't the evidence that Dario is a liar suffice here? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. We're already past the first situation.

What evidence do you have that Dario is a liar? The original comment didn't seem to contain any, just invective. Perhaps there's some subtle reference I missed?

It's publicly documented throughout the years of coverage of him on this and other websites

Re: David Sacks: OpenAI and Anthropic Don't Need Regulations to Pace Frontier Models

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Post by freejazz » Mon, Sep 14, 2026, 2:48 PM UTC

kypro wrote: post #8

Insanity wrote: post #3

They’ll slow down not because they “are worried” but because their improvements are stagnating as they hit financial and technical challenges.

> because their improvements are stagnating as they hit financial and technical challenges. I don't mean to be rude, but how is it even possible for someone to hold this opinion in mid-2026? Can you explain why you believe this?

>Can you explain why you believe this?

Well, as a starter, I've been told that AI will take my job for at least 3 years now. That's not happening. In fact, what's happening is that I now have an AI vendor BEGGING me to use their product, which of course, cannot do my job.

Re: David Sacks: OpenAI and Anthropic Don't Need Regulations to Pace Frontier Models

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Post by roboror » Mon, Sep 14, 2026, 2:50 PM UTC

throwaway63467 wrote: post #18

I guess what they really want is to limit sale of AI models to compliant vendors and then raise the bar to compliance just high enough so they can pass it but smaller labs can’t. There’s no moat, it’s an efficient market that drives margins to zero right now, of course they don’t want that, collusion of the big vendors is the next logical step.

They also want to implement self-regulation now instead of waiting for actual government watchdogs to be implemented.