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GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by blfr »

dvt wrote: post #183
onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #137

This sure looks like a race to the bottom to me, and I love it. If Sol isn't the best model, it is up there... You don't cut the price of the best model for no reason...

> This sure looks like a race to the bottom Always has been. My prediction is that both OpenAI and Claude will go bust unless they deliver a killer product. And unlike scrappy startups, they have a pretty serious deadline because creditors will come a-knockin'. There's little to no functional difference between Kimi, Qwen, Sol, Opus, etc. All flagship models are within like 1-5% of each other and the real moat will b…

There is a massive difference even between Opus and Fable, same provider, before various harnesses and other optimizations come into play. Don't be deceived by rankings and benchmarks, try for yourself.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by dgellow »

josu wrote: post #181
z_rho_one wrote: post #20

If they can cut the price of Sol by 50% and the price of Luna by 80%, then the original price might have carried a massive operating margin. They might still be serving the models at a profit after these price cuts, but we will never know.

I always find it funny that Japanese pensioners are probably subsidizing my tokens.

What do you mean?

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by londons_explore »

mirzap wrote: post #201
resonious wrote: post #196

Where is the official source for this? OpenAI's docs still show non-discounted pricing https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/models/gpt-5.6-sol

It's discounted if used via OpenRouter, not the official API.

Doesn't seem like a smart business move.

You're literally encouraging someone else to come in and steal your customer base,

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by kolinko »

z_rho_one wrote: post #20

If they can cut the price of Sol by 50% and the price of Luna by 80%, then the original price might have carried a massive operating margin. They might still be serving the models at a profit after these price cuts, but we will never know.

Or they have gotten new asics and can do now inference way cheaper

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by shibaprasadb »

netsec_burn wrote: post #32

After using Claude for a long time, I tested Sol 5.6 for the first time today. Love it, its an incredibly capable model and uses far fewer tokens/time thinking. Its what I imagine Fable would be if I haven't been downgraded on every conversation - even after completing the verification program. I think I may cancel my Claude subscription finally.

I cancelled my subscription recently and moved to Sol. So far - it has been a great experience. The only aspect where Fable/Claude is better I feel is doing some research from the web and summarising the facts.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by locknitpicker »

manmal wrote: post #142
cgannett wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And Mai-Code-1.1-Flash seems like a really good cooperative player to GPT 5.6 Sol. You get Sol to help you make a detailed plan, and Mai codes it up and you can get pretty decent code out the other end without too many tokens if you are careful.

Why wouldn’t you use Luna for that? It’s super cheap.

> Why wouldn’t you use Luna for that? It’s super cheap.

MAI also offers a ultra cheap version that's competitive with Luna.

So much so that the models look like they were designed by a product manager explicitly to eat away OpenAI's market share.

Vscode even pushed them quite hard onto users with the latest release, going to the extent of putting up a modal to convince users to try them out.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by impulser_ »

netsec_burn wrote: post #32

After using Claude for a long time, I tested Sol 5.6 for the first time today. Love it, its an incredibly capable model and uses far fewer tokens/time thinking. Its what I imagine Fable would be if I haven't been downgraded on every conversation - even after completing the verification program. I think I may cancel my Claude subscription finally.

It's the complete opposite for me. The model might be the worst model I have ever used when compared to other models in the class. You just can't get it not to just write the most enterprise over complex over engineered solutions for every little thing you ask it to do.

It the first model to actually make me pissed off to use AI. I absolutely hate the model so much.

I don't even want to see the codebases this model is fucking up.

It might just be good at finding bugs that about it. That all I would ever use it for just because it works harder than Claude models.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by KronisLV »

xscott wrote: post #149
alchemist1e9 wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fable is almost unusable for anything but super boring mainstream stuff. I was getting safeguard flagged so often I’ve significantly reduced my usage out of fear they will blacklist/ban me. Some of the topics it’s flagged have been hard for me to understand what it seeing that can be remotely concerning in my requests.

I've gotten flagged for asking questions about tokens and tensors. That makes me believe it's not about safety, it's about protecting their turf. I cancelled my subscription - same fear about getting flagged too much leading to a ban.

OpenAI and Kimi are both pretty okay alternatives! I guess GLM 5.3 on Max reasoning as well but for more limited domains.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by stavros »

claiir wrote: post #191

Since it's only discounted on the standard "OpenAI," non-ZDR route (old pricing on Azure), I'm guessing a lot of users won't see this benefit? Since a lot of users enable a global "ZDR-only" toggle on OR

It would seem that getting lots of data is exactly the reason to discount this.
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