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Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

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Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

#251

Decent browsers should block ads by default just like since 2017 they flag HTTP pages as "Not secure".

To play devil's advocate. Browsers exist to browse sites. Remove the ads and most of those sites disappear, removing the point of having a browser in the first place.. Not every site but plenty of extremely popular sites that people love and enjoy are ad supported.

Also the reader may want to support the publisher by allowing ads. What's toxic is the tracking, data collection, and how some ads are intrusive.

Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

#252

Decent browsers should block ads by default just like since 2017 they flag HTTP pages as "Not secure".

To play devil's advocate. Browsers exist to browse sites. Remove the ads and most of those sites disappear, removing the point of having a browser in the first place.. Not every site but plenty of extremely popular sites that people love and enjoy are ad supported.

that's a price I would like to pay.

Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

#253

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Let’s be real, this is more of an anti-monopoly

i only wish updates weren't tied to OS version

I agree with this, but on macos they are not entirely tired. On iOS because of the way iOS gets performance (as far as I understand it to be the case) through the iOS shared cache, there really isn't a way to totally decouple safari from iOS.

I guess you could allow an alternate newer safari, but the one that comes with the OS would have to be linked into the blob.

Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

#254

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Let’s be real, this is more of an anti-monopoly

It is not

It's a really huge deferent from chromium reaching 90%+ browser share. So yes, it is in fact an anti-monopoly browser. iOS isn't even at majority market share in most places in the world.

Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

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What's the current excuse for not supporting extensions on iOS? Orion on iOS does and it's the reason I dropped FF ages ago.

You're never going to have an app with plugin ability on iOS because that goes against the ios terms of service. It can be seen as shipping a competing appstore.

Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

#257

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Mostly so, it's got all the limitations of Manifest V3 which prevents it from doing a good bit of blocking, https://ublockorigin.com/#manifest-v3-section In particular: * Cannot use all filter lists simultaneously (rule limits apply) * No cosmetic filtering in the default mode * No scriptlet injection by default * Limited dynamic filtering capabilities * Requires broader host permissions upfront But it's definitely s…

> it's got all the limitations of Manifest V3 which prevents it from doing a good bit of blocking The only mainstream browser left that can still run the full version of uBlock Origin is Firefox. All the others have the same limitations imposed by Manifest V3.

Firefox has also adopted and supports Manifest v3, but Mozilla did not adopt all of Chrome/Chromium’s Manifest v3 restrictions.

In Chrome/Chromium, Manifest v3 largely replaces extension-controlled network blocking with a more restrictive «declarativeNetRequest», whereas Firefox, by contrast, has deliberately kept support for blocking «webRequest» functionality.

Importantly, the full uBlock Origin is a Manifest V2 extension. The Manifest v3-compatible version is uBlock Origin Lite, which has fewer capabilities.

Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

#259

Technically, Firefox Focus (a separate browser for iOS) includes an adblocker feature that can be applied system wide via iOS's content blockers subsystem. This was released in the late 2010s. Firefox including it is likely just reducing the steps required.

How do you do this? Straight up don’t know what the “content blocker subsystem” is ha

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-focus-ios#w_use...

Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

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post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To play devil's advocate. Browsers exist to browse sites. Remove the ads and most of those sites disappear, removing the point of having a browser in the first place.. Not every site but plenty of extremely popular sites that people love and enjoy are ad supported.

that's a price I would like to pay.

You can already do that. Stop going to any sites that have ads.
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