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Good luck when the last non-Chinese frontier labs will have closed and the CCP will ask to stop sharing models open source.
But imagine if Chinese labs would lose. Then there will be no open models, and the prices for closed models would be raised to the maximum.
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Chinese are pretty pragmatic. Even if they produce more expensive chips and memory, they are still going to focus on value. But who knows, maybe India will step up again like they did for Y2K 3 decades ago.
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Chinese are pretty pragmatic. Even if they produce more expensive chips and memory, they are still going to focus on value. But who knows, maybe India will step up again like they did for Y2K 3 decades ago.
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If you're not paying for the model through Open router, then which provider are you buying it from? I thought that if that provider was listed on open router it would be the same price as going directly to the provider? Are you buying from a provider that isn't listed on open router already?
> Are you buying from a provider that isn't listed on open router already I am using openrouter with zdr guardrail which routes to any provider that supposedly doesnt train on user data. I also use fireworks (directly, not via openrouter) which is a provider promising zdr and has a bunch of open weights models. My issue is that these zdr providers dont transparently disclose caching/tokens etc and so they end up bein…
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I'm not looking forward to it, them being strapped for resources provides a huge incentive to develop and release these smaller models. Even if they'd still release their models once they are able to comfortably service all potential customers via their cloud, running them locally would be almost impossible due to their size.
Chinese are pretty pragmatic. Even if they produce more expensive chips and memory, they are still going to focus on value. But who knows, maybe India will step up again like they did for Y2K 3 decades ago.
All the good talent moved to other countries due to this.
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Personally I'm hoping for EU to step up a bit
The fact that China could catch up in what, two years, shows that this is a commodity.
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Personally I'm hoping for EU to step up a bit
But if models will be commodities, maybe that won't be such a terrible thing longterm?