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Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by CamperBob2 »

jacobgold wrote: post #176

If Waymo Premier includes an [EVASIVE MANEUVERS] button on the infotainment screen I'm in. I had a Uber driver block my Waymo at an intersection in SF some months ago just to be an asshole. Apparently some other people have been attacked and robbed while in a Waymo. Waymo should treat it like a security flaw that anyone can stop your car and there's nothing you can do about it.

Waymo should treat it like a security flaw that anyone can stop your car and there's nothing you can do about it.

What are they supposed to do? Go full Mad Max? That doesn't go over well on Reddit.

Seriously, what can they do besides stop the car?

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Post by donkers »

tjwebbnorfolk wrote: post #212
jbmchuck wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems to me a lot of people just really don't like to be associated with public transit or anything associated with anything remotely underclass. It's a class marker to be driven around in an autonomous 6000lbs tank rather than move your legs a bit.

I'm much less likely to get randomly harassed or robbed or stabbed or catch COVID in a car where I am the sole occupant. I'm happy to pay extra to drop the chances of those things down to 0.00%. If that makes me some kind of class supremacist in your silly world, then guilty as charged.

How often do you think that happens to transit riders? Your concerns seem overblown. And by driving, your odds of getting hurt or dying in a car accident go way up. You’re trading one set of risks for another, not eliminating risk entirely.

Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by jgilias »

the_sleaze_ wrote: post #249

The dream of course is to replace singleton personal vehicle ownership, and to just rent a car as you need it. If it slick enough (not too much friction) I'd be willing to sign up

“You’ll own nothing and be happy”

Thanks, but no thanks!

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Post by [deleted] »

tjwebbnorfolk wrote: post #212
jbmchuck wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems to me a lot of people just really don't like to be associated with public transit or anything associated with anything remotely underclass. It's a class marker to be driven around in an autonomous 6000lbs tank rather than move your legs a bit.

I'm much less likely to get randomly harassed or robbed or stabbed or catch COVID in a car where I am the sole occupant. I'm happy to pay extra to drop the chances of those things down to 0.00%. If that makes me some kind of class supremacist in your silly world, then guilty as charged.

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Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by [deleted] »

Brendinooo wrote: post #158
boarsofcanada wrote: post #89

$30/mo is slightly mind boggling for this. I’ve enjoyed the ~70 or so Waymo rides I have taken but to me Waymo, Uber, and Lyft are methods of last resort. My feet, BART, and SFMuni are my primary methods of transportation and for $104/mo I can take an unlimited number of trips, usually very conveniently.

It'll depend on your use cases, probably. If 15 rides a month averaging $30 a ride can remove your need to own a car, that's $450. In that range the subscription would pay for itself. Compare that to a car payment, insurance, maintenance, and gas. Pretty favorable!

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Post by joshu »

i had a bunch of good rides and then one highly baffling route where it got off the road it was on to a parallel road, only to get back in the same road a few blocks later. this is literally within a few hundred feet of Waymo HQ so i don’t understand how this could go unnoticed.

i haven’t used it since.

the 25 minute pickup times don’t help.

edit: i just checked the route. 27 minutes for pickup and it diverts 20 minutes out of the way. wtf?

Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by mbil »

yodon wrote: post #61

I'd be more interested in a $29/month surcharge if Waymo weren't already significantly more expensive than Uber/Lyft to begin with.

On a recent trip to SF I found Waymo to be cheaper than Uber about half the time. I wondered if I was seeing artificially discounted prices as a new rider.

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Post by askar_yu »

jacobgold wrote: post #176

If Waymo Premier includes an [EVASIVE MANEUVERS] button on the infotainment screen I'm in. I had a Uber driver block my Waymo at an intersection in SF some months ago just to be an asshole. Apparently some other people have been attacked and robbed while in a Waymo. Waymo should treat it like a security flaw that anyone can stop your car and there's nothing you can do about it.

I've had a few similar cases, often teenagers on bikes coming dangerously close (e.g. forcing waymo to sudden break) and last one one bicyclist just blocking me for 5-10 minutes in SF (also just to be an asshole), with a street full of cars behind all blocked. I called the "connect to support" button and they could not anything. This is the only negative experience I had with Waymo; and I am hope something is done to be able to swiftly respond to such cases (e.g. remote driver take over, or at least capture their video and work with police to punish them later) in order to deter them in the long term.

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Post by nradov »

nfw2 wrote: post #179
arjie wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The biggest advantage with public transit is that your mind is not engaged driving. But at some point, the speed advantage is overwhelming. And eventually the price advantage dominates. Taking my family and grandparents to the airport is $40 by car^W rideshare and $45 by BART and twice the amount of time for me: I live upstairs from a T-train / Caltrain stop. I'd invite anyone to price out the difference themselves.…

Bart seems much more cleaner and safer now than in years past. I don't know if free mental space is the main benefit of transit. During rush hour, you can't do much outside of listen to something, which you can do while driving too. Not having to deal with parking and the fact that driving is actually very dangerous seem like stronger points in transits favor. Fwiw, driving also has some negative je ne sais quoi for…

Driving is actually not "very dangerous" if you're sober, not distracted, and driving a properly maintained modern car. Like most any activity the risk isn't zero but you can cut it down a lot.

https://www.iihs.org/ratings/driver-death-rates-by-make-and-...

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