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Re: Raspberry Pi 5 – 16GB RAM

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Agree. It's clear since COVID that Pi it's barely a company for makers or DIYers anymore, but it's a supply company for small to medium industries to integrate cheap PCs in their manufacturing process and they are good at that role.

Huh. I had a work project a decade ago where we were evaluating SBCs as drivers for kiosks. At that time, the prevailing wisdom was that the Pi was specifically not for industry, as its main advantage was the strong community to provide support for DIYers. Competitors like PINE64 and Orange Pi were the same/better specs at half the price.

The Raspberry Pi and Arduino platforms weren't meant to power commercial-grade products, nor be cost effective at scale compared to raw/custom ARM and AVR devices. However, they've become ubiquitous in education, which I imagine has impacted industry. Similar to how software companies give out free student licenses so that upcoming engineers become familiar with their software for when they start working, an entire generation of embedded systems engineers were taught on official (or compatible) Arduino and Raspberry Pi devices. While these platforms aren't meant for commercial products, I imagine engineers in industry might use these platforms to prototype or work with subcomponents, before they integrate it with a raw/custom AVR or ARM platform. After all, when prototyping, it's easier and faster to get up and running when you have a massive collection of libraries and tutorials online to use, which RPi and Arduino offer, versus doing it all yourself with raw AVR and ARM.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5 – 16GB RAM

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Good point, everyone was expecting GPU prices to go down and all crypto bros to drop their mining rigs, but they can just repurpose them now...

I thought anyone serious about mining switched to ASICs and custom hardware a while ago. At least for BTC and maybe eth, a custom asic setup is ~2-3x more profitable

Yep. You've got it right.

BTC has been an ASIC game for a very long time. GPUs haven't been profitable there since the ASICs showed up a dozen or so years ago (with odd exceptions where power is "free").

Eth kept hitting the GPU market hard until ~4 years ago, when the network switched from proof-of-work to proof-of-stake. That cut the home-gamer hobbyist miners out rather completely.

(That last one kind of sucked for me. When my office-room had resistive heating, I rather liked getting paid for my otherwise-idle GPU to make heat for me in the winter time. It wasn't much, but >0 is more than <0.)

Re: Raspberry Pi 5 – 16GB RAM

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This is hilarious considering you can easily[1] get a whole ARM laptop with 16GB for $425 all day, and that will also include a screen, keyboard, trackpad, battery, and storage. I first checked for Mac Minis and interestingly they are much closer to $650 for similar specs. And obviously if Intel is fine for your use case, either the N100 type of mini PC or, my preference, an off-lease HP, Dell, or Lenovo USFF PC, wou…

MacBook Neo for $600 is the only laptop under $999 worth looking at nowadays. Apple used to be the expensive premium option and they’re basically the cheapest today. What a time to be alive.

???

Even if you're an Apple fan, surely you don't believe that the Neo obsoletes the Air. The $500-$1,000 price segment has been alive and kicking since well before the Neo.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5 – 16GB RAM

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It's crazy how Raspberry Pi & Apple prices have moved in converging direction. Pi 5 8GB is $200 MacBook Neo 8GB is $600 (probably some edu discount available) Sure 3x the price, but it comes with - 256GB SSD, battery, display, keyboard, trackpad.. So the Pi has slowly become too expensive for weird one-off projects and also price competitive with a cheap Mac by the time you add all the stuff you need to use it as a c…

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Re: Raspberry Pi 5 – 16GB RAM

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Pi's attraction was that it was a cheap hobby computer. I could buy a whole laptop for that money.

I know RAM prices are crazy right now, but I just bought a 16gb Ryzen 7 motherboard to repair an IdeaPad for €70

Re: Raspberry Pi 5 – 16GB RAM

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This isn't exactly news, that model has been at $350 for a while. It's not like RPi suddenly introduced a 16GB model at a ridiculous price due to having forgotten about low cost stuff. The 16GB model was originally $85 iirc. Then the memory shortage hit. They could either withdraw the 16GB model (maybe screwing over some people who absolutely had to have it) or raise the price for those with urgent enough requirement…

16GB was $120 at launch. Even at that price it was a stretch and really only useful in some niches. The 4 or 8 GB models were always the best value. Now those are a bit too much, for what you get. I still think there are good applications for the <4 GB Pi 5s, but for a lot of projects I just stick with a Pi 4 or CM4 now.

Ah ok, $120, then $85 may have been the 8GB version. I remember being annoyed that to get the NVMe slot in the 500, I would have had to buy the 500+ with 16GB of ram and the mechanical keyboard, neither of which I wanted. It was at the time around $200 while an 8GB regular 500 was maybe half that.

It looks like a pi 5 is $10 more than a pi 4 in most (all?) sizes. Seems worth it for the NVMe slot by itself. SD cards are awful. I'm not buying until the ram situation settles though. I have a 400 (4gb pi 4 in a keyboard) that I use for some things.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5 – 16GB RAM

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PI's are expensive. But they have a very stable and well developed software eco system and are really flexible.

I still buy them. And a lot of them. Because with a Raspberry Pi 5 I'm able to make amazing wildlife camera sysetems that use thermal imaging and local AI to make an extremely effective solar powered wolf detector. I have a system in the field that's been running continuously since September 29 2025, over 8 months autonomously. It also records full frame thermal video in h264 24/7 and I can remotely retrieve images and video. That's a lot of functionality on a Pi 5.

I've collected over 60 videos of wolves from just one site with a Raspberry Pi 5 in this manner. In Belgium... Which is not exactly the biggest hot spot for wolves.

Videos here

https://www.youtube.com/@hcftube1

and here

https://www.youtube.com/@WildlifeSecurityInnovations

Re: Raspberry Pi 5 – 16GB RAM

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I think legacy USB peripherals are very common. Almost all of my peripherals are legacy USB; I think I only own a single USB-C peripheral. Old stuff still works, so I don't need to buy new ones.

Interesting. I don’t own any legacy USB equipment anymore, everything is USB-C now. I started phasing out my old equipment ten years ago and everything from the past five years has had USB-C as standard. Even my shaver chargers over USB-C. I guess that the people who use $350 boards also mainly use USB-C. Unless you want to connect old hardware to it but I don’t see that use-case. Not being able to connect my devices…

A person who can justify spending $350 on an SBC can probably manage to shake enough change out of the sofa to buy an adapter to plug their widgets into it.

But, sure: It's definitely even cheaper than that to just sit back and complain about it.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5 – 16GB RAM

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Microcenter doubled the price of the 500+ kit shortly after I bought one. Still $90 cheaper than Adafruit, unsurprisingly.

> unsurprisingly I'm unsure what is meant here. Does Microcenter usually have very cheap prices, or the opposite for Adafruit?

Adafruit is mostly on the expensive side.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5 – 16GB RAM

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I would never undestand this phenomenon, 350$ is a price you can buy a Ryzen mini PC instead...

In my country there is virtually no possibility to buy the newest PI, and even if it is possible, it won't cost the main price, but always more...

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