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Post by agiacalone »

univocal wrote: post #165

You know what's even worse? That if he had tried any of those "here look! we can write it for you!" tools he’d have found out that they don't even work . Gmail summaries are nonsensical most of the times. The suggested replies completely miss the intent of the original message I was trying to write. Most AI integrations around are basically alpha-quality code, that if there wasn't this forced pressure to adopt AI, AI…

Because the whole goal is not to help us.

It’s to train their AI models. You hate it and then fix it. AI gets “better”.

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Post by graphememes »

gmail is the best and worst email system on earth

they really don't know how to integrate AI into it at all, and honestly I think a part of that comes down to a little bit of column a and column b. Where column a is that they are constrained by privacy and column b is they are constrained by complete politics driven work cycles that don't allow them to rethink or rework things at all or try things out.

I'm pretty sure to do a single change it requires 50 coordination calls with like 5 different executive levels 8 kpi alignment meetings 6 product managers in varying different rooms 3 different user group studies and finally after all that you might be able to ship something but it's nothing close to what you or the user originally wanted.

such is the way of "startups"

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Post by prmoustache »

Waterluvian wrote: post #176

Making a 10 min email/work doc used to take far longer than 10 mins. Now it takes far less. This breaks the built-in guard against wasting people’s time. I wonder if a minor UI change might help a bit: make it normal to show “approx 15 min read” in the email/whatever interface. Just some sort of “this is the baseline amount of work you’re asking of the recipient.”

If you can't articulate your ideas correctly and immediately, this mean you have zero understanding about what you need to convey in a message and your prompt will only lead to an unusable and uninformative garbage of an email.

Instead of gaining time, you make everyone lose time.

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Post by fer »

manoDev wrote: post #179

I've also noticed Gmail spam filter became useless for anything but the most obvious scam/phishing, it seems any mass marketing gets thru as long as they follow some "best practices". I've been using iCloud email with a custom domain for a while, and it has been super conveninent, stable and spam-free. I also trust Apple more than Google in terms of privacy rn. So if you already pay for iCloud, give it a try.

I'm on the other end, Gmail sends to spam all sorts of legit things. Including mails from the "Google Assistant Privacy Litigation Settlement", conveniently enough.

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Post by ErroneousBosh »

kraquepype wrote: post #37
coldpie wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know everyone's tired of hearing this, but this doesn't happen on Linux. I know I know, it's different and a little janky here and there and maybe you have to find a replacement for one or two pieces of software. But like, you don't actually have to put up with this. There is a better way.

I recently built 2 mini PCs for my kids to play games on, and went with Bazzite. It was really surprising how put together it all is. The steam integration is seamless and it can play a ton of stuff even on an older NUC w/out a GPU. It was the first time I can say that installing a linux OS was easier and friendlier than Windows.

> It was the first time I can say that installing a linux OS was easier and friendlier than Windows.

It's been that way for about 20 years. Where have you been?

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Post by ErroneousBosh »

Our_Benefactors wrote: post #26
coldpie wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know everyone's tired of hearing this, but this doesn't happen on Linux. I know I know, it's different and a little janky here and there and maybe you have to find a replacement for one or two pieces of software. But like, you don't actually have to put up with this. There is a better way.

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Given that Windows still doesn't even support multiple monitors in any meaningful way, I'm not sure what you're complaining about.

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Post by bobmarleybiceps »

munk-a wrote: post #210
sebmellen wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The most frustrating thing to me is to receive a 5-paragraph-plus email that was clearly written with some AI that filled in the email with vapid and useless talking points, like "Let me know if you need any other blah blah blah; While there is clearly a need for system improvement, we are working hard to address the underlying and fundamental issue; This is a lesson that it's not just a feature, it's a critical path…

Specifically, lets imagine LLMs as compilers - you're passing your prompt through to get some pretty language at the end. Don't send me your compiled code, send me your prompt. Let it be rude, if the wording is awkward I guarantee I can understand it just as well as an LLM, ignore the fact that my daughter just graduated and offering hallucinated platitudes. Send me the actual question, don't make me try and decompil…

yeah this is what drives me crazy about LLM writing. Most of the time the prompt has all the info you need and is like maybe a few sentences. Then the LLM expands it into a few paragraphs...

I guess if someone is writing like a big fancy email to send out in bulk, maybe using an LLM to improve would make sense... but just emailing some coworkers it seems super lazy and insulting to send an LLM output :-I

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by gaiagraphia »

bossyTeacher wrote: post #41
coldpie wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know everyone's tired of hearing this, but this doesn't happen on Linux. I know I know, it's different and a little janky here and there and maybe you have to find a replacement for one or two pieces of software. But like, you don't actually have to put up with this. There is a better way.

It's hilarious seeing people complain about Microsoft when a free alternative exists. Humans are really curious creatures.

People will passionately tell each other to vote for [$moralParty], then willingly prop up companies which go against everything they stand for the very next day. Curious indeed.
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