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Re: Expanding Project Glasswing

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Are you preserving the original software licenses, or AI-laundering the code in the manner[1] of https://malus.sh 1. AI-rewrites are not clean room implementations.

Do you have any specific case citations to substantiate this idea?

"AI-laundering" is a moral judgement, based on not being a dick.

Regarding the footnote: pick any of the litigated cases, then consider if AI rewrites meet the bar of a clean-room.

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How "altruistic" of them. If only Anthropic extended this level of care to the environment or the economy.

Why do you think the impact to the economy is bad? Also, if youre talking about the environment from the lens of data centers, I agree they CAN be incredibly problematic and that should be regulated and pushed back against when they engage in problematic behaviors (stressing water supply in a drought area e.g.). But not blindly -- data centers can be a clear win-win in a lot of ways, especially if done right. "data c…

These are extremely common and well-discussed opinions, you can disagree with them but I would venture that asking "WHY do you think AI will negatively impact the economy?" is so ignorant it's not even a good-faith argument.

Re: Expanding Project Glasswing

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This is either a chuffed up PR move or an extremely generous alpha fold "publish all the proteins" moment

PR. their models dont do anything more than others. neither do their tools. they have very agrressive and misleading marketing. work in cyber for 15+ years, worked at largest CS vendor globally and fortune5 companies. (top of the list). only ppl using AI are shops with clueless ppl getting flooded in nonsense. You will see the same sentiment in a different flavor (different products) in OSS security mailing lists now…

> only ppl using AI are shops with clueless ppl getting flooded in nonsense.

Are Hex-Rays and Vector35 clueless?

Re: Expanding Project Glasswing

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Didnt Google start the race with their paper?

Google (and other labs) wanted to keep the tech internal because of the obvious safety concerns. Once they were confident that the tech was understood and under control, the public could start being drip fed. Everyone on the ground back then was hyper cautious. Then Altman made ChatGPT public, and the race began.

No that is not true, Google didn't release it because they feared it would kill their search business, nothing to do with safety.

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Its not like you handed me anything but woo to work with. There's really nothing less respectful than making up absolute nonsense and expecting a kind and thoughtful reply.

No they're right. Regardless if one agrees with you or not, doesn't change the fact that your behavior was that of an asshole. I would know since I'm one too.

Task a squirrel with agreeing with the behavior of a fox, but from the biomolecular level. That is the level of the asshole you are setting out.

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Why do you think the impact to the economy is bad? Also, if youre talking about the environment from the lens of data centers, I agree they CAN be incredibly problematic and that should be regulated and pushed back against when they engage in problematic behaviors (stressing water supply in a drought area e.g.). But not blindly -- data centers can be a clear win-win in a lot of ways, especially if done right. "data c…

These are extremely common and well-discussed opinions, you can disagree with them but I would venture that asking "WHY do you think AI will negatively impact the economy?" is so ignorant it's not even a good-faith argument.

Common and discussed opinions they are, yet they ignore any actual econometrics or understanding of how the economy works

Re: Expanding Project Glasswing

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These are extremely common and well-discussed opinions, you can disagree with them but I would venture that asking "WHY do you think AI will negatively impact the economy?" is so ignorant it's not even a good-faith argument.

Common and discussed opinions they are, yet they ignore any actual econometrics or understanding of how the economy works

Look man if you don't believe me that's fine, but you can take the word from what the AI CEOS are saying. or are these guys just as clueless?

https://www.msn.com/en-in/technology/artificial-intelligence...

https://techstartups.com/2026/03/13/sam-altman-warns-ai-coul...

https://www.inc.com/leila-sheridan/sam-altman-proposes-a-new...

I'm going to take Mark Twain's advice and not argue any further, if you have more thoughts to share I hear Opus 4.8 has tuned down its sycophancy a little bit

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Common and discussed opinions they are, yet they ignore any actual econometrics or understanding of how the economy works

Look man if you don't believe me that's fine, but you can take the word from what the AI CEOS are saying. or are these guys just as clueless? https://www.msn.com/en-in/technology/artificial-intelligence... https://techstartups.com/2026/03/13/sam-altman-warns-ai-coul... https://www.inc.com/leila-sheridan/sam-altman-proposes-a-new... I'm going to take Mark Twain's advice and not argue any further, if you have more thou…

Ah right sorry news articles I forgot these are the basis that form the entirety of our understanding of economics.

This is not the first technological revolution humanity has experienced. When they pass, aggregate unemployment doesn’t change, work gets shifted around. I mean there is plenty of data and historical precedent for what’s happening.

Again, YOU may disagree but to say that an argument to the contrary, that doesn’t rely on a game of telephone between a journalist with a requirement to be sensational and a tech CEO saying something more nuanced, is an argument in bad faith illustrates you really haven’t thought deeply or consulted any data or historical precedents for similar phenomena that have happened in our past.

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AI is far better at security than the majority of security professionals. It is a net positive. People constantly compare AI to this very rare expert human rather than the reality of who is already employed. Experts like you are a major culprit of this. And it puts you at odds with yourself to both admit the industry is full of subpar workers and then lament that they will be replaced with workers that are better, bu…

I also don’t like your framing, here. We need experts to know when AI is wrong, which it is all the time. Earlier this week someone commented here that we shouldn’t expect a language model to know that you need to drive a car to a car wash, to wash a car. So then, what do we expect it to know? Who’s responsible for when it’s wrong? Also, why can’t Mythos just fix all these issues itself if it’s so smart. And test the…

I actually agree somewhat with jatora. However a large segment of the top ~20% of security folks are being forced to become reverse centaurs, as opposed to centaurs (disempowered vs empowered) due to the factors I mentioned. I genuinely see value in the tech, but it is currently being deployed recklessly and stupidly.

Re: Expanding Project Glasswing

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As someone with over 30 years experience in computer security, both in corporate as well as boutique security and startup shops, who has been consistently fighting this trend, and recently bearing witness to and engaging in the current AI surge: I can say with absolute confidence that it is only getting and going to get even worse yet. People like me who know there is a better way are getting pushed harder to lean on…

AI is far better at security than the majority of security professionals. It is a net positive. People constantly compare AI to this very rare expert human rather than the reality of who is already employed. Experts like you are a major culprit of this. And it puts you at odds with yourself to both admit the industry is full of subpar workers and then lament that they will be replaced with workers that are better, bu…

You are leaping to the assumption that I don’t actually believe in the tech. This is incorrect. I am griping with the way it is being recklessly and stupidly deployed by poeople who really don’t know what they’re doing.
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