I wonder how many people read and heed the words of the Pope. I've seen letters like these for years now which sound good but I don't see any change in people after having read them.
Magnifica Humanitas
251–260 of 1001 posts
Re: Magnifica Humanitas
#252> “Disarming AI means freeing it from the mentality of ‘armed’ competition, which today is not limited simply to the military context, but is also an economic and cognitive phenomenon” This is very on-point: capitalism-driven AI development as we have it today will always turn against the common good due to it's singular profit-motive. What a time: the pope having a much clearer picture of the risks & dangers of 'AI'…
Re: Magnifica Humanitas
#253Earlier quoted context omitted.
Former Catholic. I left the church for a variety of reasons, one of which being the child abuse scandal. I am aware of the Catholic Church's long and often sordid history. What I am trying to say is there is no love lost between me and the Catholic Church. With that out of the way, the Pope is right. Knowledge should be used for the benefit of humanity and I don't think any of the big AI companies have our best inter…
[flagged]
Honestly pretty unreal to come face to face with someone from a history book.
Re: Magnifica Humanitas
#254Earlier quoted context omitted.
The church was a great archive of knowledge for the longest time. They were the powerful few too.
And they hoarded and kept such knowledge for themselves and those who swore fealty for as long as they could, concentrating and maintaining power for centuries. Still, I agree with the pope this once.
Re: Magnifica Humanitas
#255No one who needs to read this will ever read it again. Reading is a trained skill. Requiring years, even decades, of training. It too shall fall to AI.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gulzQIkwbJg
(at least the intro.. all in all I think it's a bit too long and some part of it kinda "cringe", but hey)
Re: Magnifica Humanitas
#256Good luck with that. Capitalism doesn't work that way. AI will make money for some companies, but as always, it will be on our expense, not for our benefit. We will get some convenient features, we will grow dependent, and eventually subscriptions will be squeezed as far as we are able to pay, advertising will take over, we will have less choice and worse service. By then we might not even have computers anymore, or…
Re: Magnifica Humanitas
#257Re: Magnifica Humanitas
#258Good luck with that. Capitalism doesn't work that way. AI will make money for some companies, but as always, it will be on our expense, not for our benefit. We will get some convenient features, we will grow dependent, and eventually subscriptions will be squeezed as far as we are able to pay, advertising will take over, we will have less choice and worse service. By then we might not even have computers anymore, or…
The pope is not claiming utopia is possible. He is reminding the world of its moral duties within this scope. "Capitalism" is not a system that we helpless atoms merely get pushed around in. How good the world is depends on each one of us choosing to do our moral duty toward the common good. There is no "system" that will, without effort on the part of its citizens, straighten the crooked timber of humanity and relieve human beings of their moral responsibilities.
Re: Magnifica Humanitas
#259Earlier quoted context omitted.
So is the Church what ? That the Church must serve humanity or that it is the "powerful few" as some here are saying? In the first case, I claim that it has and that it does. I'm not sure how you can credibly claim otherwise. Only ideologically informed animosity could distort one's views here. If you know the mission of the Church, then I see no issue. Do members of the Church fail? Of course. Everyone does, and ind…
Everything you say apply to the AI. Even more so that there are very good open models which anyone can host and get almost exact same power.
Re: Magnifica Humanitas
#260Earlier quoted context omitted.
This was not an attempt at an argument, it was a sarcastic joke on how a lot of people are already dependent on AI, even on things that you weren't supposed to use LLMs for, but I guess I failed at it.
Fair enough, and kinda silly of me to assume so little of you. Is that really true though, that so many people are "dependent" on "AI"? In what way? I'd say the only people who really depend on AI are those who want to make money off it, and that's only half sarcastic. Would the people who now run it through an LLM (and who can read the output of an LLM but not the text itself?), have read it at all before? Would it…