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Re: Greg Brockman interview [video]

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The objectional part would be: - in 2019, OpenAI created a capped-profit subsidiary in order to attract funding from commercial entities Particularly if it creates a conflict of interest for anyone making decisions on behalf of the nonprofit

100% disagree. - in 2025, OpenAI’s for-profit entity recapitalized from a capped-profit entity with residuals flowing to the nonprofit to a traditional public benefit corporation with traditional equity This is the egregious part. Before full for profit conversion it was worth $300B. Then after $850B. A true fiduciary would set an auction and that would set the price for for profit valuation. And then all existing in…

I may not be fully understanding it, but if the value went from $300B to $850B because of the conversion, then you can’t claim that the additional value was stolen from the nonprofit. As long as the entity was unconverted, there was a limit to what the market would value it at. Is this off?

Re: Greg Brockman interview [video]

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post #232

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HN is of course not a monolith, but from my recollection most of the frustration and criticism w/r/t Mozilla is about its product strategy and executive team, not its corporate structure. Some other examples of nonprofits with for-profit subsidiaries include National Geographic, the AARP, and most research universities. On Altman, the trial showed that Altman does not have any equity in the for-profit. He does have s…

He tried to get 11% equity but the trial made that impossible.

Source?

Re: Greg Brockman interview [video]

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post #146

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Wait, no, not at all. A non-profit shouldn’t have to take the highest bidder regardless. The whole _point_ of a non-profit is to act beyond purely short-term financial gains. “Elon buying this doesn’t align with the mission” is a completely normal, reasonable, and healthy response for most non-profits. What’s great is that we don’t need to speculate about a counter factual. He did end up building a chatbot! Whose def…

But the decision is still subject to heavy scrutiny; in fact, more than with normal for profit corporations. It does not seem like the board acted in the best interests of the nonprofit here, they acted in their own.

How did the board personally benefit?

Re: Greg Brockman interview [video]

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post #200

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What about stealing 12 million books of copyrighted human culture, at massive scale, and then enclosing the value created inside proprietary, investor-backed systems? Something wrong with that? What happens if you go tomorrow, downtown San Francisco, and leave a bookstore with one book without paying? "Behind every great fortune there is a crime" - Honoré de Balzac

Learning is not theft.

That will not hold on court.

Re: Greg Brockman interview [video]

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post #11

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If his entire personal diary got exposed and that's the worst that's in it, good for him.

Worse? There is nothing wrong with wanting 1B. Anybody who said they wouldn't want it is lying.

Do you understand the kind of self-absorbed asshole you have to be, to seriously write in your diary, what do I need to do, to have wealth equal to the GDP of the Solomon Islands or the Seychelles? :-)

Re: Greg Brockman interview [video]

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Worse? There is nothing wrong with wanting 1B. Anybody who said they wouldn't want it is lying.

Do you understand the kind of self-absorbed asshole you have to be, to seriously write in your diary, what do I need to do, to have wealth equal to the GDP of the Solomon Islands or the Seychelles? :-)

No. And I disagree with you. You don't have to be an asshole.

I remember when having 10k was a goal. Then it become having 100k.

It's the same after. Once you have 1M, you'd like 2, 5, 10.

Re: Greg Brockman interview [video]

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Why can't someone ask what happened in Ilya's mind. Firing Sam and then signing the solidarity letter of Sam to leave OpenAI if was fired. Other than that, all other information seems kind of just going over the surface.

>what happened in Ilya's mind I thought Ronan Farrow's investigate essay answered that pretty satisfactorily? https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2026/04/13/sam-altman-may...

It's paywalled. Could you recap for us?

Re: Greg Brockman interview [video]

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post #124

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What about stealing 12 million books of copyrighted human culture, at massive scale, and then enclosing the value created inside proprietary, investor-backed systems? Something wrong with that? What happens if you go tomorrow, downtown San Francisco, and leave a bookstore with one book without paying? "Behind every great fortune there is a crime" - Honoré de Balzac

> What about stealing 12 million books Who's missing the books? 12 million books is a rather large warehouse! I thought HN was in the "information wants to be free" camp...

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Re: Greg Brockman interview [video]

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post #145
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Yes, that, please! I also never understood why the board resigned after ousting Sam...

Because they lost and crumbled. They were unbelievably outmatched by Sam (a world-class manipulator) and Satya (the money behind OpenAI and himself a political genius.) They were outmaneuvered, panicked, and folded. Did they have to? No. But in the moment they thought they were on the precipice of nuking a deca-billion dollar company, their life’s greatest work, and a generational company. It’s hard to stand against…

> It’s hard to stand against what they did.

It’s still unclear at what happened, to make Sam unfit to be the CEO.

Re: Greg Brockman interview [video]

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post #257

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>what happened in Ilya's mind I thought Ronan Farrow's investigate essay answered that pretty satisfactorily? https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2026/04/13/sam-altman-may...

It's paywalled. Could you recap for us?

https://archive.is/c7YNw - it's worth a read, summarizing his writing would be a disservice
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