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Post by alfiedotwtf »

conception wrote: post #64
b00ty4breakfast wrote: post #59

I can't help but think that there is a deliberate effort to remove the US from it's position in the global geopolitical arena. And not merely as a by-product of policy decisions but specifically to damage the American reputation.

There is. You can read it - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

> The book emphasizes that Russia must spread geopolitical anti-Americanism everywhere: "the main 'scapegoat' will be precisely the U.S."

I can’t tell if the world how it is right now in 2026 is the way because this book’s plan went so well, or just dumb luck.

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Post by g42gregory »

We were told by some very brilliant people (Sam Altman, Dario Amodei and to a lesser extent Demis Hassabis), that AI will shortly automate much of Research and we won't need that many researchers anymore.

Therefore, these personnel restrictions shouldn't matter, right?

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Post by watwut »

317070 wrote: post #91
TrackerFF wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We can go even further: One hallmark of fascist regimes is selective enforcement. They start with making laws and rules so opaque and convoluted that pretty much anyone will break them at one point. But they will be extremely selective on when they enforce them, and who they go after. EDIT: But, as someone will probably point out, convoluted laws / bureaucracy does obviously not automatically mean fascism or corrupti…

Not sure if it matters, but that is at least not true for nazi-style fascism. In there, they had a very strong rule of law for most people. But, there was a dual, a parallel system where there was no law at all, it operated outside of the legal system. You could win a trial and be exhonorated, only to be taken away by the gestapo at the door of the courtroom. It was important for the nazis to keep businesses running,…

It was not strong rule of law at all. Germany was chaotic messy place back then. And in addition, courts were right wing biased long before nazi.

Also, the existence of parallel non judicial system makes it literal opposite of strong rule of law. It is not a rule of law when a SA thug can beat and imprison you for winning over him in cards - which was the literal situation in Third Reich.

> Most people would not come into contact with the second system, and barely knew it existed.

Everyone knew about the parallel system. The fear and terror were base of power. There were no attempts to hide it and many attempts to publicize it by nazi.

Moreover, the whole thing started by repression and arrests of high profile political opposition. People do notice that famous writers are in hiding, that the leaders of the strongest party run away, are in prison and then dead. It was impossible to not know about the parallel system or widely publicized repressions. But, a German in question might have been someone who agree with those or benefits from those.

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Post by roenxi »

kergonath wrote: post #152
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #131

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> Very sad to see the US fall away from the rule of law, into kleptocracy. This is what is so hard for me to handle, and it really feels like I'm grieving a death. Because no matter what happens, even if some things eventually get better, I feel like the US as I knew it is dead - there is simply no coming back from the fact that it's been laid bare how quickly and easily vast swaths of our political leadership would…

> there is simply no coming back from the fact that it's been laid bare how quickly and easily vast swaths of our political leadership would sell out to completely destroy our Constitutional principles. I think you are right. At the same time it’s also an opportunity to get rid of an outdated constitution and have another go, with the benefit of 250 more years of experience. Just don’t fall into complacency: this gov…

> At the same time it’s also an opportunity to get rid of an outdated constitution and have another go, with the benefit of 250 more years of experience.

Which experiences? The US constitution was written with approximately 2,500 years of experience in democracies and the last 250 years has been mostly repeats of things that have happened before. It isn't obvious that anything has happened that the US constitution writers were unaware of. There have been a few innovations in public choice theory but it nothing leaps to mind as something so fundamental it would be part of the constitution.

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Post by kortilla »

dylan604 wrote: post #222
eduction wrote: post #220

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Oh we have to worship our ex presidents like kings? It’s possible to criticize both Trump and Obama. For example my top criticism of Obama is that he killed a 15 year old American child without trial. His press secretary was not only was unapologetic he said “ I would suggest that you should have a far more responsible father if they are truly concerned about the well-being of their children.” https://en.wikipedia.or…

Drone strikes would be my top Obama criticism, followed by not closing Guantanamo, but I can use the man's name without some clever nickname. That's just not worthy of the actual conversation. It a very Trumpian thing to do

>It a very Trumpian thing to do

“Drumpf” and “Cheeto” would beg to differ

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Post by cyberax »

vkou wrote: post #230
cyberax wrote: post #204

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States absolutely have autonomy. And not just on paper. And a lot of it is just in the amount of friction that the federal government can get. E.g. Trump sent ICE goons to MN and now he's embroiled in dozens of lawsuits because of that. Yes, he probably will win most of them eventually, but they all take time and energy. With a lot of negative PR along the way.

MN can't even give two murderers a fair trial because apparently Trump's goons can kill anyone they want, and then go scurry off like roaches. If states had autonomy, those animals and their accomplices would be behind bars right now.

BTW, another example of autonomy is the fact that Trump had to send ICE agents in the first place. He could not just order the local police to perform the raids, there's simply no chain of command for that.

In Russia, it would have been one phone call from the Kremlin to the local chief of police.

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Post by pseudohadamard »

kergonath wrote: post #149
epistasis wrote: post #18

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This is a very common thing for corrupt governments. No rules are clear, so that those at the top can dictate whatever they want whenever they want. Which means that the only safe route is to always be on very very good terms with leadership. Very sad to see the US fall away from the rule of law, into kleptocracy. See also the way that grants are now being distributed at NCI and NSF. Only very large grants for many m…

> No rules are clear, so that those at the top can dictate whatever they want whenever they want. Which means that the only safe route is to always be on very very good terms with leadership. Exactly. That’s why dictatorships are so adverse to the rule of law, despite many (notably the macho-nationalist ones) being ostensibly for "law and order". > Very sad to see the US fall away from the rule of law, into kleptocra…

"Nazi Germany was not a straightforward totalitarian system. It retained some vestiges of the rule of law, chiefly in matters of business, so that the capitalist economy had the basic rules it needed to keep going. But the prerogative state - Hitler's political machinery - enjoyed 'jurisdiction over jurisdiction'" - Ernst Fraenkel.

Re: U.S. researchers face new restrictions on publishing with foreign collaborators

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Post by vkou »

cyberax wrote: post #256
vkou wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MN can't even give two murderers a fair trial because apparently Trump's goons can kill anyone they want, and then go scurry off like roaches. If states had autonomy, those animals and their accomplices would be behind bars right now.

BTW, another example of autonomy is the fact that Trump had to send ICE agents in the first place. He could not just order the local police to perform the raids, there's simply no chain of command for that. In Russia, it would have been one phone call from the Kremlin to the local chief of police.

You'll find that in most countries, town cops don't take orders from the federal government.
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