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Kindle loyalists scramble as Amazon turns page on old e-readers

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Re: Kindle loyalists scramble as Amazon turns page on old e-readers

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Post by paulcole »

wiseowise wrote: post #176
paulcole wrote: post #93

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> Every time they announce new Kindle products, half of the comments are like "I hope they have buttons," "I hope they bring back the Oasis," etc. WWII fighter plane with red spots on it dot gif. The vast majority of people who buy Kindles simply read books on them and don’t repeatedly cry online about features that are never coming back. I’ve bought about 10 of the things dating back to 2012 either because I wanted…

Ultimate consoomer. Eats whatever shit it’s being fed and doesn’t complain. Powers that be know better what is good for you anyway, right?

Why would I complain? I can start reading nearly any book I want to in a few seconds for around $10.

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Post by smcin »

Aloha wrote: post #187
_doctor_love wrote: post #136

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(This may be a very ungenerous reading of your comment, so my apologies if this is not what you mean.) The phrase that jumps out at me is: > being able to cut off support for a 12 year systems would make my life much more full of joy I think this is a nearly-poetical capturing of the core problem. The focus is on the joy and well-being of the maintainer, not the impact to all the people who will be impacted by this c…

How long should a hardware and software product be expected to last? Try estimating doing win11 updates on a 20 year old piece of delphi spftware with hardware full go custom ASICs be expected to lsat?

This isn't about hardware "lasting", it's about basic software functionality on older hardware intentionally being disabled. Somewhat similar to Apple's Batterygate.

Re: Kindle loyalists scramble as Amazon turns page on old e-readers

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Post by dghlsakjg »

fodkodrasz wrote: post #10
onidj wrote: post #5

Having used an early kindle and a recent kindle, they are incredibly similar. One of the main innovations of the new models appears to be adverts you have to pay to get rid of.

Also gradually phasing out support of formats like mobi, in such subtle ways that if you open a mobi file you cannot go back to the library, but have to cold-reboot your device... My current kindle is my third one, and is the last. I will never ever pay for a kindle to Amazon, due to its user hostility. Oh, and also you cannot move ebooks between accounts, even not with a lot of friction, eg. support tickets, which w…

Minor nit: Steam doesn’t require DRM. That is left up to the game publisher.

Re: Kindle loyalists scramble as Amazon turns page on old e-readers

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Post by smcin »

paulcole wrote: post #251
wiseowise wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ultimate consoomer. Eats whatever shit it’s being fed and doesn’t complain. Powers that be know better what is good for you anyway, right?

Why would I complain? I can start reading nearly any book I want to in a few seconds for around $10.

How long is your expectation that you can access that e-book, after you pay $10?

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Post by dghlsakjg »

rahimnathwani wrote: post #94
WithinReason wrote: post #22

Just got an xteink x4 and flashed crosspoint on it, I've been tuning fonts by modifying the font generator and now it renders great. https://www.xteink.com/products/xteink-x4

Maybe I'm getting old, but I don't see the appeal of reading on an eink device that's smaller than my phone, which I'm always carrying. Maybe if I'm reading outside in sunlight rather than in bed? Or if I'm worried about getting distracted by a FB/X notification?

The appeal is that it is a better reading screen than a phone, while being the same size as a phone. It means that I can take a book anywhere without having to bring a bag

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Post by kuschku »

umbra07 wrote: post #157
kuschku wrote: post #147

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Why 15 years? Why should I ever have to accept things getting worse? Isn't the point of progress that things get better ? There's multiple touch zones (which aren't visible or marked), there's multiple gestures you can interact with, and it's so slow and janky enough that you never know what will happen when you touch it. Will it go forwards? Or backwards? By one page? Or a dozen? Will it open the settings? Or change…

I've never had this issue. And I use Koreader - which has much larger touch zones than the normal Kindle software. Are you normally reading in a moving vehicle or something?

> Are you normally reading in a moving vehicle or something?

Indeed I am! My primary use case for the kindle is to use it on the train.

> which has much larger touch zones than the normal Kindle software.

That may actually be the reason why. The regular software is extremely sensitive to gestures and has small touch zones, so it's easy to miss the zone, or trigger a gesture, instead of clicking what you want to click.

I also frequently have to go back a page or two and re-read a section or two, so if I read physical books I always have my fingers placed so I can go back a page or two easily, and on the kindle that works a lot less reliably (especially due to the ~500ms latency on the paperwhite).

Wheras on the Kindle 4 with the forward/back buttons on both sides it was really convenient to actually go back and forth (and instant, as flipping a page back or forth on the kindle 4 never triggered a full display refresh)

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Post by NotPractical »

e28eta wrote: post #114
Aloha wrote: post #107

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14 years of support for a device is pretty incredible.

I don’t know how I feel about it. I’ve been on one side, looking at usage numbers of older iOS versions, and arguing that low single digit percentages were fine to stop supporting with the new version. On the other hand, I view my kindle as an appliance, and I don’t need it to have updated functionality. I think this is true of many electronics: digital cameras, printers, misc USB peripherals, etc. I believe Amazon c…

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Post by fragmede »

thrownthatway wrote: post #181
umbra07 wrote: post #157

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I've never had this issue. And I use Koreader - which has much larger touch zones than the normal Kindle software. Are you normally reading in a moving vehicle or something?

Reading in a moving vehicle? Is this something people aren’t supposed to do?

Depends on each individual's propensity for motion sickness when doing so. If you don't get it, read on!

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Post by Zambyte »

landgenoot wrote: post #239
Zambyte wrote: post #183

I'm writing this reply on a Daylight Computer. I can't reco it enough. It's been my primary mobile device over a year now

Mine doesn't remember the last opened books when the date isn't correct. Unfortunately you cannot set the date manually.

Did you mean to reply to someone else? You can set the date manually on the Daylight and even if you have trouble, you can just use a different app. It's just Android.
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