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Let me make this clear: To hell with your historical collective guilt machine. I honestly dont care what people did before I was born. I had absolutely no decision in anything of theirs. Had no choice in any of that. Nor did I enslave or torture or murder people. My parents didnt either. Their parents didnt either. And somehow, Im responsible for shit that happened hundreds of years ago? Whatever. I dont mind helping…
WHO declares Ebola outbreak a global health emergency
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Re: WHO declares Ebola outbreak a global health emergency
#252This is the WHO announcement: https://www.who.int/news/item/17-05-2026-epidemic-of-ebola-d... This is our CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/ebola/situation-summary/index.html And yes, this is a big deal. Public health emergencies of international concern are a short list consisting of, in their entirety: swine flu ('09 to '10), polio ('14 on), ebola ('13 to '16), Zika ('16), ebola ('19 to '20), Covid ('20 to '23), monkeypox (…
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These are relatively recent advances. But for the longest time wasn’t that case.
HIV has only really been known for ~40 years. And for at least 10 to 15 of those years research into treatment was limited and stigmatized as it was considered a "gay disease". The modern treatment regime was developed around 2010. That is, about 15 years. I'd argue that with the timeline of the disease that's not recent. What's become more recent is the mass availability of treatment and the significantly reduced co…
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Covid turned into a pandemic because it wasn't taken seriously at the start. (Looking at you, China.) Public-health experts never seemed concerned about hantavirus. They are with this. It's appropriate to take their declarations seriously. > Ebola generally requires contact to spread "Human infection occurs through close contact with the blood or secretions of infected wildlife, such as bats or non-human primates, an…
China actually took COVID extremely seriously from the start. They were snatching people from the streets and killing them. The China crematoriums were running non-stop. It was the US Administration and the Republicans that were the dipshits and turned a health situation into politics.
Can you give more info on this? Tried googling it but couldn't find much. I remember there were very strict quarantines, but don't remember reading anything about "killing" people snatched from the street.
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and yet they still do. by that logic move away and stop them visiting. conclusion drawn from your arguments...
> move away and stop them visiting This is a valid strategic conclusion. It would require America ceding Africa and probably the Middle East as strategic theatres to China and, to a lesser degree, Russia and maybe France. (This may be worth the cost.) It would also require trade and travel decoupling from both China and Europe, as well as from the Middle East and probably South America and Canada, too, given the tran…
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> With what money? There's a reason they're dependent on USAID. How much does BASIC hygiene cost it's like manners. It's education (which is more than well funded at a "throw cash at it problem". > we just dumped our excess production Well in a nutshell, yes we'd dumping quite a lot on Africa, that doesn't mean we should shore up the system with yet another western derived screw-up. At this point I'll go for the good…
Having clean water access, etc., is a little bit more than "education", in practice
Unless you have industrial pollutants in which case you also have someone to blame...
We didn't get this far as a species being that ignorant
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Global fact: millions died.
Also we've now reached vitD in kids cereals and butter so you know, we know how to avoid this...
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> the anti-mask wackos Well thank you for your service to stupidity. The only measure of worth was actual social distancing which was quickly admonished by the pointless mask arguments as nauseum. No, there is no science good to bad to back up things which are broken by common sense, virii spread in Japan at the same rate as the west after accounting for population densities. (faster without the correction as you'd e…
> The only measure of worth was actual social distancing It's been conclusively shown that N95+ masks block the virus particles. IIRC the coherent anti-masking arguments were of the form that they were not necessary for general population, not that they did not work . If you want to point me to some research that shows masks are ineffective in eg healthcare settings, go right ahead. In my experience, anti-masking beh…
And frankly I'm saddened that you're arguing for an educated by tryany and trying to make things political which are simply fact based