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Re: Cuba says it has run out of fuel, blames U.S. embargo

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Post by culi »

mothballed wrote: post #25
ReptileMan wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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In a vacuum sure, but the communists replaced Batista, who was arguably as bad or worse at the time of the revolution. In the long run they'd have probably been better under Batista because being America's bitch is better for the health of Caribbean nations than being the bitch of USSR/China and the enemy of America while you haul your goods home in a donkey cart like it's the 19th century. But it wasn't knowable at…

Important to point out that Batista was installed by the US.

There are only 2 countries in all of South America that DON'T have the experience of having a democratically elected leader ousted in a US-backed coup and replaced by a dictator.

Only 2. (Colombia and Uruguay)

Re: Cuba says it has run out of fuel, blames U.S. embargo

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Post by culi »

ricardobeat wrote: post #26

Isn’t Cuba prime estate for solar, maybe wind too? A little gift from China could go a long way.

38% of it's electricity comes from solar. They've been ahead of the curve for a long time. But solar alone is not enough to meet energy security on an island nation

Re: Cuba says it has run out of fuel, blames U.S. embargo

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Post by culi »

some_random wrote: post #28
wiradikusuma wrote: post #18

From the perspective of a layman, isn't this bullying? Don't we suppose to have the UN where nations.. unite?

No, refusing to trade with an adversary nation isn't bullying.

This is a blockade. It's explicit in Trump's executive order.

Blows my mind how many americans don't or don't care that the explicit goal here is to starve human beings. It's literally a crime against humanity. One that only the US can get away with

Re: Cuba says it has run out of fuel, blames U.S. embargo

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Post by culi »

ceejayoz wrote: post #10
mlmonkey wrote: post #4

I don't really understand the point of the embargo. I am an American. Picking on a tiny country like Cuba serves no purpose. The elites in Cuba are not going to suffer; the normal people will. Instead of acting like a bully, I wish our government would be more magnanimous and just drop the embargo.

> I don't really understand the point of the embargo. Making sure Florida's Cuban-American community keeps voting Republican. The end result is going to be them being another China-dependent colony. https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/article/as-the-us-starves-it-of...

They've been China dependent for over a decade now. What's different this time is it's an active fuel blockade. US is intercepting ships and explicitly trying to starve people

Re: Cuba says it has run out of fuel, blames U.S. embargo

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Post by palmotea »

pasquinelli wrote: post #249
kyboren wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any way you slice it, such an exodus is never the sign of a well-managed country.

i'd love to see america "manage" the conditions america has imposed on cuba.

> i'd love to see america "manage" the conditions america has imposed on cuba.

The single biggest problem would be rebuilding the US manufacturing base. Once that happens, the US would be fine. America's probably capable of autarky: it's got the natural resources, population size, and technology.

Re: Cuba says it has run out of fuel, blames U.S. embargo

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Post by culi »

Manuel_D wrote: post #37
asHqar wrote: post #23

The US starves anyone it does not like from natural resources and subsequently makes them buy US natural resources. It has done this to the EU, now it is trying to do it to China and Cuba. This way they can control everyone.

This is the exact opposite of what the US is doing to Cuba: The US isn't making Cuba by US resources, it's prohibiting Cuba from buying US resources and products.

No, the US is intercepting all ships. Trump's executive order was explicit. This is a fuel blockade. An outright attempt to starve an entire country

Re: Cuba says it has run out of fuel, blames U.S. embargo

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Post by culi »

WaxProlix wrote: post #6

What we're doing to the Cuban people with this blockade is criminal. I don't expect to see justice in my lifetime. What a miserable state of affairs.

Thank you for being one of the few that seem to actually understand that this is not just a embargo but an actual full-fledged blockade

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2026/02/un-experts-c...

This is collective punishment and considered a war crime under Fourth Geneva Convention

Re: Cuba says it has run out of fuel, blames U.S. embargo

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Post by palmotea »

phpnode wrote: post #245
Manuel_D wrote: post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The meaningful thing is to understand the difference between a blockade and an embargo. When people say that the US is blockading Cuba I'm not sure if they are genuinely misinformed and think that the US Navy and Coast Guard are physically apprehending any ships trying to dock in Cuba, or if they are just ignorant about the difference between a blockade and an embargo.

You are quibbling over minor semantics. Is the US preventing most oil from reaching Cuba or not?

> You are quibbling over minor semantics.

You all are. Why not just concede it's an embargo not a blockade and move on?

> Is the US preventing most oil from reaching Cuba or not?

Sometimes questions like that obscure more than they elucidate. If you're debating if a killing is murder or involuntary manslaughter, it doesn't prove your point to ask if the man is dead.

Re: Cuba says it has run out of fuel, blames U.S. embargo

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Post by ch4s3 »

selivanovp wrote: post #205
ch4s3 wrote: post #102

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I can agree that the current de facto blockade of oil is an unwarranted act of aggression and that the embargo was bad policy but the embargo was hardly criminal. The premise of the embargo was that Cuba expropriated American property without compensation so congress was punishing the Cuban government in turn. Again, its bad policy but not really unusual or criminal per se. The embargo has also had a ton of carve out…

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