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Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by Gigachad »

trinix912 wrote: post #235
Gigachad wrote: post #207

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Then when it gets reported the authorities can just look up the owner of that number and arrest them. Vs overseas based operations that are difficult to follow up on.

The authorities already don’t have much leverage over “domestic” spam call centers that are actually located overseas but somehow always manage to acquire domestic numbers to call from.

A couple of years ago Australia had a big reform of the laws where sms providers / voip companies had to actually verify their users owned the numbers they send from. Anecdotally before then I was getting a scam text message every day, now I haven’t had one in years.

Phone numbers in Australia are also all tied to ID. If there is a will to fix the system, it can be done.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by ButlerianJihad »

Gigachad wrote: post #251
trinix912 wrote: post #235

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The authorities already don’t have much leverage over “domestic” spam call centers that are actually located overseas but somehow always manage to acquire domestic numbers to call from.

A couple of years ago Australia had a big reform of the laws where sms providers / voip companies had to actually verify their users owned the numbers they send from. Anecdotally before then I was getting a scam text message every day, now I haven’t had one in years. Phone numbers in Australia are also all tied to ID. If there is a will to fix the system, it can be done.

Good now we only need to get 100% of sovereign nations and rogue states to adopt uniform global treaties

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by reaperducer »

pixel_popping wrote: post #221
Yizahi wrote: post #175

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LLM generation in general provides the most use to scammers and the like. Generate emails which people won't read, generate articles which are just honeypots or rip-offs, generate images to said articles, generate more and more spam. Every legit use case for LLM practically requires that human would verify the result manually, at least briefly. But spammers can enjoy skipping that step, since content was never a main…

I disagree frankly, as the next wave is clearly fully autonomous businesses.

I disagree frankly, as the next wave is clearly fully autonomous businesses.

Considering the disaster of that AI-powered store in San Francisco, I'm skeptical that this could happen in the next wave. Or even the next ocean.

(WSJ article from a few weeks ago stated that the "AI" can't stop ordering candles, and manages the staff so poorly that sometimes there are no employees scheduled for some shifts.)

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by otterley »

faangguyindia wrote: post #79
otterley wrote: post #50

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Can you support this claim with some evidence? Not just about the redundancies, but I’m also particularly interested in hard data showing Claude is capable of doing that kind of research with near 100% verifiable accuracy and migrations with no data loss and equivalent functionality (which is required to sustain your claim).

is most sysadmins and devops capable of 100% verifiable accuracy? you over estimate average skill level available in market.

You’re redirecting. You made the claim that this is happening; it’s your burden to back it up.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by ToucanLoucan »

neom wrote: post #243
ToucanLoucan wrote: post #231

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I challenge you to explain a business plan for a fully automated business that isn't at least a bit shady.

Any business can be run in a shady manner if the human decided. One fully automated business I think could exist and might be useful is apartment/condo rental. I'd pay a business $100 for a proper report on the rentals available in a city that meet a criteria and are amalgamated from all the the various platforms. Doing it yourself (at least in Canada) means creating accounts on a bunch of platforms, and the process…

> Any business can be run in a shady manner if the human decided.

No kidding.

> One fully automated business I think could exist and might be useful is apartment/condo rental.

We're starting strong on the category of businesses that generate no actual value and just scrape an amount of value out of existing transactions that would've happened anyway, i.e., rent-seeking. But good for you, you can now artificially shrink the supply of limited-availability goods in the market, then gate access to them behind a paywall, and you don't even have to do the minimal amount of actual work required to fleece strangers for part of their paycheck while creating no value.

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Post by tiffanyh »

jacobheric wrote: post #248
tiffanyh wrote: post #244

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As someone not well versed in these topics, would you mind helping me understand how this is different than an MCP for your onboarding & account provisioning APIs.

It's provisioning expressed as an API, but wrapped in a cli that agents can very easily use. Then anyone that implements the API is added to a marketplace of services. And the ability to pay for service is baked in because it's stripe. The end result is that as an engineer I can ask an agent to use the stripe cli to discover and provision, including paying for, a wide variety of services and it mostly just works.

Super helpful. If you don't mind me asking, why are CLI so popular for agent use - as opposed to just raw APIs?

Sorry if this is a naive question.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by neom »

ToucanLoucan wrote: post #255
neom wrote: post #243

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any business can be run in a shady manner if the human decided. One fully automated business I think could exist and might be useful is apartment/condo rental. I'd pay a business $100 for a proper report on the rentals available in a city that meet a criteria and are amalgamated from all the the various platforms. Doing it yourself (at least in Canada) means creating accounts on a bunch of platforms, and the process…

> Any business can be run in a shady manner if the human decided. No kidding. > One fully automated business I think could exist and might be useful is apartment/condo rental. We're starting strong on the category of businesses that generate no actual value and just scrape an amount of value out of existing transactions that would've happened anyway, i.e., rent-seeking. But good for you, you can now artificially shri…

So basically you didn’t ask your original question in good faith. Got it. Thanks for wasting my time.

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Post by 7thpower »

mpeg wrote: post #135
_pdp_ wrote: post #51

The reason this blog post does not come with any concrete examples how to use this enablement for useful and constructive things tells you something very important - it is a toy and they do not know who and how they will use it. It is cool feature but to what end? Buying a domain is not something you have to do daily to require any kind of automation. I am also not sure who Stripe Atlas for. I am genuinely confused.…

I think this post needs to be put in context, for months now Cloudflare has been releasing products that allow their whole platform to be usable by agents with the main objective of enabling their customers to dynamically write code using Cloudflare, this is just another step. For example, you can now with Artifacts and Dynamic Workers make a lovable-style SaaS where your customers ask the AI agent to write software…

Keep going…

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by brightball »

_pdp_ wrote: post #51

The reason this blog post does not come with any concrete examples how to use this enablement for useful and constructive things tells you something very important - it is a toy and they do not know who and how they will use it. It is cool feature but to what end? Buying a domain is not something you have to do daily to require any kind of automation. I am also not sure who Stripe Atlas for. I am genuinely confused.…

I remember back in the day Heroku had a huge store of integrations that you could just turn on with a click and they worked like that. You'd get a New Relic account that was tailored to dyno performance and you accessed it via your Heroku dashboard.

It became "the way" a lot of these PaaS systems operated and I'm sure the goal was to get some percentage once you increased your usage from the free tier, which makes sense for the PaaS partner.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Post by giancarlostoro »

_pdp_ wrote: post #51

The reason this blog post does not come with any concrete examples how to use this enablement for useful and constructive things tells you something very important - it is a toy and they do not know who and how they will use it. It is cool feature but to what end? Buying a domain is not something you have to do daily to require any kind of automation. I am also not sure who Stripe Atlas for. I am genuinely confused.…

> The reason this blog post does not come with any concrete examples how to use this enablement for useful and constructive things tells you something very important - it is a toy and they do not know who and how they will use it.

I've been wondering the same thing. What would have stopped me from using a model to talk to their APIs in an autonomous way anyway? Are you going to captcha my bot from running scripts to hit your API end-points? How can you tell its not my automated scripts vs an agent vs me testing?

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