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Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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pfisherman wrote: post #54
realusername wrote: post #39

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I always found that Apple had pretty mediocre software qualify, it's always been a very strong hardware company first and foremost. They have great kernel, drivers and low level engineering but the stack above that has a lot of questionable stuff.

The comment above is on to something. I find CarPlay to much more valuable and much more of a lock in to the iPhone than Siri. I do not think I could ever go back to using the infotainment systems that ship with cars. So makes sense why they might prioritize over Siri. And in the context of CarPlay, the simplicity of Siri is nice. I really only need it to execute a few simple commands like looking up directions, maki…

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Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by halJordan »

JeremyNT wrote: post #77
jedisct1 wrote: post #43

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> They have custom versions of Claude running on their own servers internally. This is the important point. Sending their internal code, documentation, secret tokens, etc. to Anthropic would be completely irresponsible. But if they are running the models on their own servers, why not!

Was it even publicly known that Anthropic offered this capability? I wasn't aware on-prem Claude was a thing.

Yes it was known. The usg is also running their own copies on fedramp data centers (for now)

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by 8note »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #117
thrtythreeforty wrote: post #94

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Here's a question: I don't understand the gap between these LLM powered voice agents vs CLI coding agents, the latter of which are obviously useful and quite resourceful at getting something done when asked in plain English. Seems like an agent given 20-30 tool calls like "read_sms" "matter_command", and "send_email" would be able to work out what to do for things like "set the house to 72° and text Laura that I did…

> Seems like an agent given 20-30 tool calls like "read_sms" "matter_command", and "send_email" would be able to work out what to do for things like "set the house to 72° and text Laura that I did it." Incidentally, a major headline in the news this past week was about a coding-agent that wiped its company's entire system, including backups; which the company's staffers were confident was utterly impossible (as it di…

If you are really worried about that, the agent already has that access since itll go find that key anyways.

the HN thread about that case was much more of a "why are you putting your prod keys in random text files" and "the sota in prompt engineering is that putting DONT FUCKING DO THE BAD THING" makes the agent more desperate to get stuff done

putting limits at the harness level would do just fine. one LLM call, one tool call per voice message.

you dont have to give it a ton of turns

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by robotresearcher »

gchamonlive wrote: post #41
realusername wrote: post #39

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I always found that Apple had pretty mediocre software qualify, it's always been a very strong hardware company first and foremost. They have great kernel, drivers and low level engineering but the stack above that has a lot of questionable stuff.

I don't dispute that, but Apple made its business on the premise of being the best in the business in terms of UX. Note though that you can have great UX powered by mediocre software, so those aren't mutually exclusive.

Apple’s Mac software in the 90s had great UX and very underwhelming and old fashioned kernel software which they struggled to replace. Jobs knew this and did the work externally with NeXT.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by curiouscats »

Spooky23 wrote: post #19
piker wrote: post #12

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I'm suspicious of that take from Mark Gurman. That's a lot of detail around pricing and "holding Apple over a barrel" as relates to the Siri deal that seems like a nice PR spin from Anthropic. Anthropic probably couldn't give the uptime guarantees that Google can, right?

Apple is a pretty difficult company to deal with on a B2B basis. If you have terms that conflict with theirs, they aren’t very flexible. Anthropic can be similarly difficult, and their needs from a business perspective probably don’t align with Siri. I would imagine that Google has a more flexible/long term approach to absorbing some risk in a revenue share arrangement than anthropic who generally wants cash. Anthrop…

Good thoughts.

The last sentence doesn't make that much sense to me though. An agreement with Apple to be the lead AI partner would likely juice the IPO a great deal. The financial details wouldn't matter much for the IPO (as the initial financial commitments are going to be small but the halo effect would be real - I think it would in the market anyway).

I think Anthropic has real commitment to their way of doing things which can cause short term issues (and hurt the IPO). And they seem willing to keep those values rather than just making deals to pump the IPO. As you say Apple also sticks to their way of doing things even if it frustrates their partners.

I think not being the lead partner with Apple may well be good for Anthropic long term. But if all you cared about was the IPO just agreeing to Apple's terms likely would have been the best option.

These SpaceX, Anthropic and Open AI possible IPOs are so extreme it is hard to make judgements about them; so maybe there are Anthropic IPO issues to an Apple agreement that I don't appreciate.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by BeetleB »

recursive wrote: post #234
BeetleB wrote: post #188

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Oh man. I made the mistake of converting my Google Home devices to Gemini. The first problem is that it's just slow. If I want it to turn off some light, it takes a long time before responding. But yeah, the failure to do basic tasks. I have a routine that I used to have it run (controls several devices at once). Now: 10-20% of the time it runs it. 60% of the time it says it's running it but it doesn't do anything. 2…

I don't know if it's related to Gemini, but sometimes the Android Auto tells me "I don't have permission to do that" simultaneously with actually doing the thing that is allegedly lacking permission. Sometimes I want to move off the grid.

Just recently got my first "modern" car.

Man, I hate touch screens. And I hate Android Auto. My previous car had an aftermarket Bluetooth system (radio, etc). It was way, way better than Android Auto or any entertainment system I've seen in any car.

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Post by ronsor »

coldpie wrote: post #111
Hendrikto wrote: post #102

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> HN is still worth visiting, but it's getting harder to justify spending time here I feel the same. Quality of both submissions and discussions have considerable decreased. It is still the best general purpose “aggregator” I know of, but it is not what it was. It is becoming more and more FotM hype and boring group-think. HN was great due to the breadth of unique, interesting, nerdy topics, most of which I would hav…

I dunno, it's tough. I hesitate to say HN is "getting worse," even if I agree with that in my gut. I think that gives rose-tinted glasses and nostalgia-bait. Rather, I think the community is refocusing around something that I find uninteresting. If you find LLM output to be dull, as I do, it's less and less a place for you to be. I try to push the community in more interesting directions by upvoting articles with act…

HN refocuses around every hype cycle. At one point it was JavaScript frameworks, and then cryptocurrency, and then even NFTs for a bit.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by kjkjadksj »

elicash wrote: post #240
dqh wrote: post #206

I’ve been wondering if vibe coding was responsible for the recent introduction of acoustic echo cancellation (AEC) bugs in FaceTime (muting and unmuting the microphone appears to temporarily fix it). Apple has always had excellent AEC in my experience, it’s sad to see them breaking a fundamental phone function.

It could also be the problem was that they tried to code it themselves instead of letting a computer do it. Like doing long division by hand instead of trusting a calculator.

Well, at least the calculator is deterministic.

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Post by CountHackulus »

wenc wrote: post #44
acdha wrote: post #34

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Who’s doing it better? I have yet to hear from a Google or Amazon user who has a transformatively better experience, and I think that’s why they haven’t jumped so far because they have hundreds of millions of users who have daily habits that they don’t want to lightly disturb.

Right now Alexa+ and Gemini are objectively better. The best is ChatGPT voice mode. It understands non English words and accents amazingly well, and even though the LLM model isn’t the full fledged one, I can have deep conversations with it for an hour without it missing a beat.

Alexa+ has been a massive downgrade for me. It's extremely laggy and constantly misunderstands me, whereas the old one never did. "Set a timer for 20 minutes" used to be instant and just work, I did this the other day and it took 10 seconds to respond and set a timer for 10 minutes.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by xnx »

recursive wrote: post #245
stickfigure wrote: post #237

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Strong disagree. The upgrade was a little bit rough at first (mostly because of slow response) but now it's a million times better than the old assistant. The old assistant basically just repeated "I don't know how to do that" over and over. I have never had trouble setting timers with either.

The new one was 100% failure to do anything with timers for me. I never saw it work once. If I had ever gotten that to work at all, I may not have uninstalled it, and might have a different impression now. I cannot account for why our experiences are so different.

> I cannot account for why our experiences are so different.

It is much better today than 3 months ago.

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