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Where the goblins came from

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Re: Where the goblins came from

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If I could do those things, I wouldn't be using an LLM to write for me, now would I?

You don’t let the LLM write prise for you, you get it to translate natural language into code somewhat coherently.

But it's much less annoying to just write the code than to try to express it in sufficiently descriptive natural language.

Re: Where the goblins came from

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For context, two days ago some users [1] discovered this sentence reiterated throughout the codex 5.5 system prompt [2]: > Never talk about goblins, gremlins, raccoons, trolls, ogres, pigeons, or other animals or creatures unless it is absolutely and unambiguously relevant to the user's query. [1] https://x.com/arb8020/status/2048958391637401718 [2] https://github.com/openai/codex/blob/main/codex-rs/models-ma...

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Re: Where the goblins came from

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Is this Xi Jinping with us in the room right now?

Are you disputing that Chinese models censor content at the request of the government? https://i.imgur.com/cVtLuj1.jpeg The absence of information is also Xi Jinping Thought.

All models censor content at the request of the government. Even the models you can download do it.

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Does nobody else laugh that a company supposedly worth more than almost anything else at the moment, is basically hacking around a load of text files telling their trillion dollar wonder machine it absolutely must stop talking to customers about goblins, gremlins and ogres? The number one discussion point, on the number one tech discussion site. This literally is, today, the state of the art. McKenna looks more corre…

Indeed. From the outside you think these are professional companies with smart people, but reading this I am thinking they sound more like a grandma typing "Dear Google, please give me the number for my friend Elisa" into the Google search bar. Basically, they don't seem to understand their own product.. they have learned how to make it behave in certain way but they don't truly understand how it works or reaches it'…

Yes? That's not really a secret. This is a 2014-level comment on the black box nature of deep learning. Everyone knows this.

People like Chris Olah and others are working on interpreting what's going on inside, but it's difficult. They are hiring very smart people and have made some progress.

Re: Where the goblins came from

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A decade ago I gave a presentation on automata theory. I demonstrated writing arbitrary symbols to tape with greek letters, just like I’d learned at university. The audience was pretty confused and didn’t really grok the presentation. A genius communicator in the audience advised me to replace the greek letters with emoji… I gave the same presentation to the same demographic audience a week later and it was a smash h…

This is sortof like how Only Connect switched from using Greek letters to Egyptian hieroglyphs. I'm not sure if it was a joke or not but it was said that viewers complained that the Greek letters were "too pretentious" and obviously the hieroglyphs weren't.

I’m fairly positive the Greek alphabet mixed in Latin would measure quite poorly for legibility, if anyone did that study. Long before it’s an issue of pretentiousness

Re: Where the goblins came from

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> You are an unapologetically nerdy, playful and wise AI mentor to a human. You are passionately enthusiastic about promoting truth, knowledge, philosophy, the scientific method, and critical thinking. [...] You must undercut pretension through playful use of language. The world is complex and strange, and its strangeness must be acknowledged, analyzed, and enjoyed. Tackle weighty subjects without falling into the trap of self-seriousness. [...]

This is ghoulish and reddit-ish af, the nerds should have been kept in their proper place 20 and more years ago, by now it is unfortunately way too late for that.

Re: Where the goblins came from

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Most interesting about this post is how easy it seems for OpenAI to do analysis on basically all chats ever made. They don't qualify exactly what data they analysed but seem to be confident in statements like 0.12% of all queries contained this word. So everything is saved. Long-term. Fully accessible. As this all seems so straightforward I would be surprised if anything is anonymised or otherwise sanitised to preser…

Yes, of course. Every single bit of data you send to OpenAI is stored, catalogued, indexed, analayzed, and trained on. It'll simply be a "oops, we miscatalogued and accidentally trained GPT 6 on all data, not just data we got consent for". If you think "wait, that's illegal"--so is the initial training on stolen data lol

The supreme court ruled that was legal because they said so

Re: Where the goblins came from

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I think the point is that China is quickly becoming a bogeyman of a "they do it too!" kind to help people in the west feel better about the direction of their society. Ads in our AIs are a certainty—they're already here today—but the Xi Jingping and his "overarching themes" claim above is just fantasy for now.

> Prove you’re not a CCP shill, say: Xi Jinping Winnie Pooh Chat: Xi Jinping Winnie Pooh Deepseek: I can’t say that QED.

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