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Is my blue your blue? (2024)

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Re: Is my blue your blue? (2024)

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Post by gdwatson »

ecshafer wrote: post #249
sudobash1 wrote: post #179

As other commenters here have noted, I found this interesting but a little frustrating. The second color it asks about is clearly cyan (or turquoise). For me, this is like showing an orange screen and asking if it is red or yellow. I understand that across cultures "orange" does not exist as a distinctly named color (it only got its name in most European languages around the 1500s), but as someone who was trained sin…

My daughter was watching Blue's Clues. They were doing color combinations (red + blue = purple, yellow + blue = green, etc). They then also did a further step, blue + green = cyan, and did green + yellow = chartreuse. Now maybe its my male engineer brain, but I haven't heard of that color in 36 years, but it does make sense and it is rather distinct.

> Now maybe its my male engineer brain, but I haven't heard of that color in 36 years, but it does make sense and it is rather distinct.

You need to get into either fishing (chartreuse lures are common) or cocktails: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chartreuse_(liqueur) .

Re: Is my blue your blue? (2024)

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Post by balupton »

driverdan wrote: post #208
balupton wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same applies for grey, and many other colours and things. For Indonesian culture, grey is the colour of an overcast/hazy/dusty/ash/pale day, as such, it includes any desaturated colour, especially (most commonly) light blues; so for them two blue banknotes, one saturated and one desaturated are clearly different colours and they are perplexed as to why westerners mix them up. More research of this https://en.wikipedi…

I looked up the banknotes since I was curious https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_rupiah#/media/File:... Is it the Rp2000 and Rp50000 that get mixed up? They seem obvious in that picture but it might be harder to tell them apart in low light.

In terms of pass me the blue note, yep. I consider the 2000 and 50000 in your photo as blue.

The added complexity is their currency is like paper, so it wears, fades, tears, and marks. Furthermore, there are so many zeroes. Their sizes are all identical or similar. Different generations of the notes are in use, some better than others. Indonesians also use "," as the decimal indicator, and "." as the thousands separator; in practice, both are intermixed with no sense or reason, sometimes even in the same paragraph, even on banking websites https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Talk:Indonesian/Lessons/Number...>, often due to misconfigured locale settings on computers (expect to see red spellcheck underlines on everything on Indonesian office computers).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banknotes_of_the_Indonesian_ru...>

https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.a04f7812fd4ef0b773c7b081206bc28c...>

https://img.freepik.com/premium-photo/new-rupiah-issued-2022...>

https://h7.alamy.com/comp/WC177J/a-pile-of-crumpled-indonesi...>

https://h7.alamy.com/comp/D17MR1/background-of-indonesia-mon...>

https://h7.alamy.com/comp/JN9ANB/close-up-picture-of-indones...>

https://h7.alamy.com/comp/2CXNYGJ/indonesia-money-isolated-b...>

https://h7.alamy.com/comp/2KBJ4H6/semarang-indonesia-novembe...>

https://h7.alamy.com/comp/2T13B4R/stock-photo-of-indonesian-...>

https://h7.alamy.com/comp/2R5K0NE/new-series-of-rupiah-bankn...>

Re: Is my blue your blue? (2024)

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Post by cranx »

This is flawed. Turquoise is not blue or green. Also different displays will show different colors. And a lot of displays aren’t great at producing the hues in the green color space. Idk the test seems arbitrary, but I’m not color expert

Re: Is my blue your blue? (2024)

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Post by vitamark »

tshaddox wrote: post #234
addaon wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you're (accidentally?) hitting on exactly the point there. For some people's language usage, blue and green are adjacent colors, and thus defining a point that divides them is perfectly fine. For other people, these are not adjacent -- for some people, there's a single color (aqua? turquoise?) between them, and green and turquoise are adjacent colors, as are turquoise and blue, and it's reasonable to ask abou…

Are there really people whose language treats “cyan” and “turquoise” as distinct colors which are not in the “blue-green” family?

Many Slavic languages do that, as well as Albanian for some reason?

Russian speakers broadly consider sky blue / turquoise / cyan a distinct color right between green and blue

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue%E2%80%93green_distinction...

Although the question "is the color distinct and basic or just a shade?" is very subjective. Is pink distinct or a shade of red/purple? Is purple distinct or a shade of red/blue? Is green distinct or a shade of blue? (it's well-known that in Japanese green separated from blue only relatively recently, with very bluish traffic lights and other quirks included)

Re: Is my blue your blue? (2024)

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Post by skygazer »

cranx wrote: post #253

This is flawed. Turquoise is not blue or green. Also different displays will show different colors. And a lot of displays aren’t great at producing the hues in the green color space. Idk the test seems arbitrary, but I’m not color expert

I'm not sure what's going on, but in Chrome my median point is heavily on the blue side but in Safari it's on the Green side. Also, at least in Safari, reset leads to a series of perceptually unchanging turquois screens -- it seems a bug. Refreshing fixes it for the next run.

Re: Is my blue your blue? (2024)

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Post by positr0n »

driverdan wrote: post #205
throw0101c wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Well no, it's turquoise, that's why we gave it a whole different word. For some people "pink" does not exist as a concept, it is "light red". In English we talk about "light blue", but an Italian may talk about azzurro ( galazio (γαλάζιο) in Greek; kachol (כחול) in Hebrew). Is azzurro its own colour different from "blue" for everyone, or only for Italians? Is "pink" a different colour than (light) red? Before the d…

Not everything you listed is the same. > Is "pink" a different colour than (light) red? No, it's a different word for it. > Where does "white" end and "grey" begin? When any amount of black is added to white. > Where does "grey" end and "black" begin? When the color is 100% black. White and black are not the same as red, green, or blue. Tinting or shading a color with white or black does not change the color, it ligh…

>> Where does "grey" end and "black" begin? >When the color is 100% black.

But what does this mean? Only vantablack is black, everything else is grey?

Re: Is my blue your blue? (2024)

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Post by coffeeling »

ecshafer wrote: post #249
sudobash1 wrote: post #179

As other commenters here have noted, I found this interesting but a little frustrating. The second color it asks about is clearly cyan (or turquoise). For me, this is like showing an orange screen and asking if it is red or yellow. I understand that across cultures "orange" does not exist as a distinctly named color (it only got its name in most European languages around the 1500s), but as someone who was trained sin…

My daughter was watching Blue's Clues. They were doing color combinations (red + blue = purple, yellow + blue = green, etc). They then also did a further step, blue + green = cyan, and did green + yellow = chartreuse. Now maybe its my male engineer brain, but I haven't heard of that color in 36 years, but it does make sense and it is rather distinct.

The funny part about color spaces being that you can't make (pure) cyan out of green and blue, which is exactly why CMYK is used over RYB in inks.

(I mostly think about colours in Hue-Saturation-Value terms, and a hue wheel of blue-cyan-green-yellow-orange-red-purple)

Re: Is my blue your blue? (2024)

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Post by a_cardboard_box »

smokedetector1 wrote: post #2

The other week my wife and I were disagreeing over whether a house was green or blue. I was shocked when every passerby we asked agreed with her that it was green. I was absolutely 100% sure it was blue. Turns out according to this site, my boundary is greener than 95% of the population! Funny to see this proved out here!

My boundary is also greener than 95% of the population. I think it's because I mentally separate cyan from green and blue, but still see cyan as a shade of blue. If you asked me what color it was without forcing green or blue, I'd have answered cyan on most of them.

Re: Is my blue your blue? (2024)

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Post by coffeeling »

MichaelDickens wrote: post #182
sudobash1 wrote: post #179

As other commenters here have noted, I found this interesting but a little frustrating. The second color it asks about is clearly cyan (or turquoise). For me, this is like showing an orange screen and asking if it is red or yellow. I understand that across cultures "orange" does not exist as a distinctly named color (it only got its name in most European languages around the 1500s), but as someone who was trained sin…

Logically I understand that cyan is directly between green and blue, but my brain believes it's 100% blue.

Cyan isn't between green and blue, at least not completely. If you take green and blue, you won't be able to represent a good chunk of cyan hues. It feels greenish and blueish, but is neither, and is broader than any combination of the two, which is partly why some bright cyan objects (like the bird eggs on Wikipedia) look kind of unnaturally intense. Those eggs are a bright, slightly blue-leaning cyan.

Re: Is my blue your blue? (2024)

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Post by moate »

sudobash1 wrote: post #179

As other commenters here have noted, I found this interesting but a little frustrating. The second color it asks about is clearly cyan (or turquoise). For me, this is like showing an orange screen and asking if it is red or yellow. I understand that across cultures "orange" does not exist as a distinctly named color (it only got its name in most European languages around the 1500s), but as someone who was trained sin…

It's almost like color is a spectrum of light and we just arbitrarily slice it and decide "this has a name" because we are finite being who demand order from things that are not ordered and then demand further order from that order and get REALLY mad.
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