Dictatorships do what dictatorships do. China is a dictatorship. Don't be surprised. Stop doing business with dictatorships.
China blocks Meta's acquisition of AI startup Manus
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Re: China blocks Meta's acquisition of AI startup Manus
#252Funny when you consider the world owes a lot of AI advancements to both Meta and Google, their open releases really did shift things, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, especially for China, which as far as I know were not releasing as much in AI as they have been beforehand. I remember when Meta released Llama originally people were speculating about it, but it wound up producing a lot of projects that used it, I…
> Funny when you consider the world owes a lot of AI advancements to both Meta and Google Funny how ByteDance kicked both their asses so hard at RecSys algos, they had to go back to the drawing board to meet the newly redefined expectations on the quality of short-form video recommendations.
Also Chinese companies are now single-handedly keeping the future of LLMs open-sourced. DeepSeek being the pinnacle of this. Not only do they publish weights and code, but they publish detailed papers detailing their approach
Re: China blocks Meta's acquisition of AI startup Manus
#253Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because it's very obvious whataboutism.
Sure and what's the problem with that? If you can't explain why country A doing X is bad but country B doing similar thing isn't it probably means you don't have a good argument.
There's a whole wikipedia article discussing how it is both a logical fallacy and how it is often used as a tool of propaganda.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
Please don't engage in whataboutism. One should be able to criticize China's actions without calling into discussion actions of other nations.
Do you go about threads criticizing US govt actions drawing parallels to similar actions in other regimes like China or Russia?
Re: China blocks Meta's acquisition of AI startup Manus
#254Dictatorships do what dictatorships do. China is a dictatorship. Don't be surprised. Stop doing business with dictatorships.
Should countries also stop doing business with the US? With the UK? Countries act the same way to preserve the interests, it's just that you agree with the Western narrative.
Re: China blocks Meta's acquisition of AI startup Manus
#255> The Chinese government’s intervention in the transaction drew alarm among tech founders and venture capitalists in the country who were hoping to take advantage of the so-called Singapore-washing model, where companies relocate from China to the city-state to avoid scrutiny from Beijing and Washington. If the US is going to treat AI technology as a strategic issue upon which it's going to play the national security…
Finally some sense. I am quite confident that the US would be reacting the exact same way if the situation was flipped.
Re: China blocks Meta's acquisition of AI startup Manus
#256Re: China blocks Meta's acquisition of AI startup Manus
#257Dictatorships do what dictatorships do. China is a dictatorship. Don't be surprised. Stop doing business with dictatorships.
Should countries also stop doing business with the US? With the UK? Countries act the same way to preserve the interests, it's just that you agree with the Western narrative.
I think it is easy to argue that the Chinese govt exerts pressure in "unique ways" - see Jack Ma's 180 in attitude after house arrest. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ma#During_tech_crackdown
Is there one CEO in the US or UK with a similar story?
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#258Earlier quoted context omitted.
He's fine because he complied with the authorities.
All states, by definition, are authorities that demand compliance. You're not saying anything that distinguishes Jack Ma's condition from anyone else's just about anywhere.
That is nonsense. There is the rule of law and there is the arbitrary actions of regimes that are a law unto themselves.
Re: China blocks Meta's acquisition of AI startup Manus
#259Earlier quoted context omitted.
I suspect this is more of a warning shot to others attempting the same playbook ("Singapore-washing", as I've heard folks call it): the state is watching, and shifting geopolitics means it's in their interest to retain successful talent and entities at home rather than let opposition have them. If anything, I'm genuinely surprised it took them this long. America's been doing this for decades without much in the way o…
I don't know if America has done anything quite like this. The example I'm looking for is where a company starts in the US but leaves and incorporates outside the US and then the US attempts to block acquisition by a foreign company. Also, the enforcement mechanism while vague seems un-American. America might tax the company upon exit but it wouldn't hold the founders hostage in America. If you have examples I'd be c…
We maintained control of EUV tech after selling key parts to the Dutch, but that came out of US public-private partnerships and not pure private.
Re: China blocks Meta's acquisition of AI startup Manus
#260Earlier quoted context omitted.
Should countries also stop doing business with the US? With the UK? Countries act the same way to preserve the interests, it's just that you agree with the Western narrative.
I think it is easy to argue that the Chinese govt exerts pressure in "unique ways" - see Jack Ma's 180 in attitude after house arrest. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ma#During_tech_crackdown Is there one CEO in the US or UK with a similar story?
No, and that's exactly the problem. There should be plenty of CEOs facing direct consequences for their actions in "the west" too.