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Re: GoDaddy gave a domain to a stranger without any documentation

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That is a really fd up system. Pay more to own more.

"You get what you pay for" has been true ever since capitalism was invented. Whether it be the "get a registered trademark" route or the "pay more for a competent domain registrar" route, you pay either way.

I think the proper term is 'pay to play'

Re: GoDaddy gave a domain to a stranger without any documentation

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post #22

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Why does using GoDaddy as a registrar instead of one with a better reputation like Porkbun or Namecheap make sense when you're small?

Namecheap looks really bad if someone does some due diligence and the word 'cheap' comes out, it's unproffessional and signals cheapness of materials. Porkbun I'm not familiar, but it for sure can be a better option, it's just that when people start out they look for a familiar name rather than the marginally best option. I just said it makes sense, not that it's the best option. It's just fine if you are a small or…

Ahh, I understood "makes sense" as "is a good idea" rather than "is an understandable mistake".

Re: GoDaddy gave a domain to a stranger without any documentation

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post #210

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Often there's a redemption period (depending on tld i think) where the domain can be recovered. Registrars will generally charge a redemption fee during this period.

Some fee for this is reasonable. $140 seems something less than reasonable for most TLDs. I would think this fee should be, at most, the cost of 1 year of registration.

You're absolutely right, and they often blame the registry for the fee, but support for one of my domains once gave me the impression they inflate on top of the fee for extra profit.

Re: GoDaddy gave a domain to a stranger without any documentation

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Most of the issues we've seen in the past are due to payment failures, credit card declined, etc., that let the domain goto auction and lose access. This is all new and from the content of the post looks like due to an employee error in transferring the wrong domain and they don't have a process to address the situation. Corporates have a huge blind spot and everything with them is just a process and this case the pr…

Blind spot in the process is one thing, support staff not understanding the urgency of something like this and escaping to higher level is another

That's right. This is no different than transferring money to the wrong account in a bank but it rarely happens since they have strict protocols.

Re: GoDaddy gave a domain to a stranger without any documentation

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I have no reason why would anyone use godaddy 10 years ago let alone today

It's literally the largest registrar in the world, by a large margin. When you're a business and want something reliable, picking the most popular provider is usually a strategy that works decently well. They're more likely to have established processes that work for all sorts of cases. That's what makes this particular story so egregious. Domains are a very funny business. I can't think of anything so crucial to bus…

> When you're a business and want something reliable, picking the most popular provider is usually a strategy that works decently well.

That is a strange idea to me. Some people are real fans of the lowest bidder, no matter how awful they are.

Re: GoDaddy gave a domain to a stranger without any documentation

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At the risk of sounding snarky; Last Saturday afternoon one of his client’s domains vanished from his GoDaddy account. Lee is one of the most competent IT guys I know. 'Competent' and 'client's domains [hosted on] GoDaddy' don't go together.

It does sound snarky, maybe GoDaddy was the cheaper option at one point and they stuck with it. I get that. I use some square space for a lot of stuff, but it's largely because Google Domains sold out and the price is "fine." Sure, I could use something else, but this works, the cost is correct, and - I can't stress this enough - it already freaking works. I also use a python as a service tool I point at frequently.…

I was in the Google Domain sold to Squarespace boat too. To this day, that sale makes zero sense, mind boggling they would offload such a critical part of consumer infrastructure. Anyway, I had zero trust in Squarespace, so I spent some time and moved all my domains to Cloudflare and couldn’t be happier. Lots of nice bonus features also popped up.

Re: GoDaddy gave a domain to a stranger without any documentation

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It does sound snarky, maybe GoDaddy was the cheaper option at one point and they stuck with it. I get that. I use some square space for a lot of stuff, but it's largely because Google Domains sold out and the price is "fine." Sure, I could use something else, but this works, the cost is correct, and - I can't stress this enough - it already freaking works. I also use a python as a service tool I point at frequently.…

I was in the Google Domain sold to Squarespace boat too. To this day, that sale makes zero sense, mind boggling they would offload such a critical part of consumer infrastructure. Anyway, I had zero trust in Squarespace, so I spent some time and moved all my domains to Cloudflare and couldn’t be happier. Lots of nice bonus features also popped up.

That’s probably my next move? But it’s a sort of trade off between time and asspain to stay on square space lol.

Re: GoDaddy gave a domain to a stranger without any documentation

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Whatever was really happening in that incident it seems clear that it was not a simple matter of having registered some domains with Cloudflare and then getting a shakedown for $100k+ because of that. If anyone else chooses to read the post then I suggest skimming the comments (that are mostly hidden by default) as well.

> Whatever was really happening in that incident it seems clear that ... CF for all their faults probably weren't the bad guy, when they discovered a "customer" absolutely taking the piss with capacity and doing incredibly sketchy things with domains to get around regulatory issues. I have a courtesy hire car from a breakdown service at the moment with "unlimited mileage". I suspect they mean "unlimited mileage doing…

If you were in Scotland or Europe more generally, it'd be illegal for "unlimited mileage" to not actually be unlimited mileage.

If CF decides you're subject to an invisible limit which they won't even tell you and you have your domains at CF, they hold your domains hostage. Luckily, these guys had their domains somewhere else so they weren't hostage. Don't be the one who is.

Re: GoDaddy gave a domain to a stranger without any documentation

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post #203

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Trademarks mean Bullshit. Facebook closed a site of mine besides having a registered and valid (US) trademark that precedes everything.

Trademarks can't magically prevent someone from doing something wrong. That doesn't make them useless. (No idea how this relates to Facebook, so responding to your comment generically.)

Somebody using this name claimed my site if fraudulent. Now, please show your ignorance regarding trademarks and ask how he could use the name if I have an old trademark....

Re: GoDaddy gave a domain to a stranger without any documentation

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post #232

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Trademarks mean Bullshit. Facebook closed a site of mine besides having a registered and valid (US) trademark that precedes everything.

A trademark means nobody but you has the right to use the name in commerce. It doesn't mean Facebook is forced to give you a site (whatever that means).

Bullshit
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