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The modified MIT clause is sneakier than people think. Hit 100M users or $20M a month and you have to slap "Kimi K2.6" on your UI. That covers any consumer app worth building. Not really open, more like free until you matter. Llama pulled the same move
wow - $0.95 input/$4 output. If its anywhere near opus 4.6 that's incredible.
This should erase any doubt that AI Labs are making $$$ on API inference. Kimi 2.5 (which this is based on) is served at $0.44 input / $2 output by a ton of different providers on OpenRouter, 2.6 will certainly be similar. That's about 11X less than Opus for similar smarts.
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gemini is worse imo
You're correct, Gemini chat limits are a joke at their chapest paid tier compared to both Claude and GPT. Especially crazy when you consider Gemini 3 Pro is more than twice as cheap as Opus 4.6 on the API. It's hard to run into pure chat limits on Claude even if you only use Opus on the cheapest tier, whereas with Gemini it's easy to hit. Not sure about coding usage, Google being weird about these things I could see…
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That's what I wrote? Except that it also clearly has internal bias?
> That's what I wrote? No. You wrote that "you won't hear about Tiananmen square from this model" and atemerev wrote that "the model itself talks fine about Tiananmen". You wrote that "it can easily access any withheld or missing info from training data via tool calls" and atemerev wrote that "the model itself talks fine about Tiananmen".
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Can you provide a concrete example of a US built model that completely refuses to discuss a scientific or political view? Show us the receipt.
https://imgur.com/a/censorship-much-CBxXOgt (continues after the ad break)
There is some humor in the fact that china (of all countries) is pioneering possibly the world's most important tech via open source, while we (US) are doing the exact opposite.
Accessed via OpenRouter, this one decided to wrap the SVG pelican in HTML with controls for the animation speed: https://gisthost.github.io/?ecaad98efe0f747e27bc0e0ebc669e94... Transcript and HTML here: https://gist.github.com/simonw/ecaad98efe0f747e27bc0e0ebc669...
was part of the beta, its properly good model, in some sense i forgot that im not on opus or gpt. opus is still better. gpt is the one struggling for me. it has some niche in backend work but you can get the same with opus with skills, its lacking in almost all others.
4.7 made no difference, so for the first time in many moons I am cancelling my subscription.
There is some humor in the fact that china (of all countries) is pioneering possibly the world's most important tech via open source, while we (US) are doing the exact opposite.
I think one of the motivations is undermining US companies. OpenAI and Anthropic are the two biggest players, and are American. Open weights models reduce the power those two big players have over the industry. If the Chinese companies tried to play by US rules and close-source their products then people would mostly use ChatGPT and Claude. So the Chinese companies don't make a ton of profit either way, but by releas…